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Two stupid questionsRich_Racer
Jan 5, 2004 11:49 AM
Excuse the stupid questions but I'm about to start racing this year having been cycling for a couple of years.

1) To race in a USCF race, do I have to wear the jersey of a team registered with the USCF. (Do I need to be a member of a team?)

2) Practically speaking - how does catorgary upgrading really work eg. do I really need to do 10 races to get to cat 4, regardless of results??

(I realise that that's almost 4 questions but I didn't want to keep modifying the number like te spanish inquisition!)

re: Two stupid questionsbiknben
Jan 5, 2004 1:05 PM
1.) You do not need to be a member of a club/team. If you are not a member of a club, you are called "unattached". You cannot wear the jersey of another team which you are not a member of. I've seen a racer asked to turn his Mapei (sp?) jersey in-side-out at the start line. I've also seen an official give a racer a hard time because he was wearing a Postal kit.

2.) 10 qualifying mass start races is all that is required to go from cat. 5 to cat. 4. It's not uncommon for racers to request an upgrade early with unique circumstances. The decision is made by the USCF District Rep. Cat. 5 is intended to give new racer some experience before they mix in with others who have been racing longer. It's a safety concern. If you can prove you have previous experience or get early results, an early upgrade is possible.

Further clarification can be found here:
re: Two stupid questionsRich_Racer
Jan 5, 2004 2:14 PM
It's funny - it was briefly reading through the rule book that prompted these questions. I suppose it's pretty clear on the upgrade issue but I just wondered, since I've done a couple of races in England, and if I was, to say, win my first race here (unlikely, I know!) would an upgrade be possible straight away. Or after 5 top ten places, or something like that??

Nothing is certain or out of the question...biknben
Jan 5, 2004 2:34 PM
These are questions only the USCF District Rep. can answer. He/She is in charge of upgrades.
re: Two stupid questionsDougSloan
Jan 5, 2004 4:13 PM
Jersey: I've heard of an official requiring a racer in the "public" class remove or reverse a jersey looking too similar to the California state champion jersey, and that's not even in the rules! I think the rule essentially says you cannot wear clothing with sponsors on it that are not your sponsors, and all team members must wear the same jersey (from memory). I'd recommend just wearing a plain jersey. There are hundreds from which to choose.

From 5-4, I've heard of people upgrading after 5 mass starts, based upon other experience or attending a skills clinic. I've heard that results are relevant.

This may be fairly moot, anyway, as I've found that 90% of the time the 4's and 5's race together anyway. It could make a difference in prizes should you win, as typically 5's aren't offered prizes or at least significant ones.

I would suggest that after several races, submit your resume to the district rep, and include all your experience, whether it be racing in England or a double century. All they can do is turn you down and possibly tell you what you need to do. The rep may well take into account results, as there appears to be a fair amount of discretion, and who's going to complain?

re: Two stupid questionsSadlebred
Jan 6, 2004 7:47 AM
I have seen officials tell people to turn jerseys inside out if they were wearing professional team jerseys. It's best to wear a plain jersey with no sponsors or markings on it until you become a member of a team. It's just easier.
Thanks guys for all the help - that's great. (nm)Rich_Racer
Jan 6, 2004 1:28 PM
Racing in San Diegonorthcoast
Jan 12, 2004 11:21 PM
Race the Boulevard race as your first race. It's the first race of the season. It is Feb 7th.

That is a great race to cut your teeth........

Actually it is a killer...and a good way to learn a little humility and show the need for more training :)

If you've ridden the Swamis ride you probably know a little bit about what I am talking about.

There are so many people here in great shape that can ride all year long that you'll be surprised at the fitness level of Cat 5 riders.

Good luck
Jan 28, 2004 11:25 AM
HOLY COW! I am soooo out of shape. Not to mention under-motivated.

I am not built to race hills so I'm going to go do the Red Trolley "Classic" the day after Boulevard.