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Racing frame???(X-post on Components)...(10 posts)

Racing frame???(X-post on Components)...TFerguson
Nov 6, 2003 12:46 PM
I'm looking for a good crit/short RR racing frame that I can afford to crash. Size= about 56cm/medium. I'm thinking a 2-4 year old brutally stiff, all aluminum from the Far East. Giant OCR 1, Fuji Team, KHS Team/Flite 2000 come to mind. Any others? What other models of these would have the same frame? i.e. was the OCR 3 the same as the OCR 1 only with lower level components? Flite 1000= Flite 2000? I would imagine the lowest level model frame could be found cheaper even if it is exactly the same with a different decal.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
TF
re: Racing frame???(X-post on Components)...PMC
Nov 6, 2003 12:55 PM
GVH has Cannondale Caad3 & 4s in stock and on sale in a 56 for 355 and 445 respectively. Either would make a great crit frame IMO. He also has a Specialized M4 Festina for 535 in the same size and I've heard those are Stiff.
C'Dale...biknben
Nov 6, 2003 1:12 PM
The C'DAle CAAD 3, 4, or 5 fits your description. Tight handling, brutally stiff, also with a high BB for easier cornering.

GVH has teh best price on NOS. Ebay is a place to consider. You'll always find C'Dale frames there but sizing is hit or miss. I sold a CAAD5 (Frame & fork) for $450 on ebay over the summer.
www.chucksbikes.comshawndoggy
Nov 6, 2003 1:34 PM
He's got a couple of frames in the "really cheap" category. So long as you don't care what label it sports (and it sounds like you don't), you might also look at the Scatantes at Supergo and the Leader frames on e-bay. All three of those options should get you a frame, fork and HS for under $300.

NONE will get you props at the starting line, but then again, in my neck of the woods, you don't see the guys on litespeeds winning races either. Really all you are looking for is a decently stiff platform to hang some components on. No sense spending more than you need to to do that!
www.chucksbikes.comMShaw
Nov 7, 2003 10:50 AM
I've noticed over the years that it isn't the guy on the polished Litespeed with the D/A (Record), and 404s that you really have to worry about. Its the guy on the old beat up frame and parts that's the one who is the threat.

I fall somewhere in the middle...

Mike
true dat, and...shawndoggy
Nov 7, 2003 10:57 AM
the college kid with no tape on his bars should definitely be watched.
Around here you have to watch out for the Cannondalesbimini
Nov 10, 2003 12:29 PM
There is a pretty good racing club around here with Cannondale backing. The Cat 1-2s on the team ride Cannondales. When they show up at the races we all know who is going to win the top spots.
You might consider TCRMcAndrus
Nov 7, 2003 8:28 AM
I've never ridden an OCR but I do have a TCR just for crit racing and I think it's excellent for it's purpose. In the TCRs the difference between 3-2-1-0 is in the components and the frames are the same. I got a TCR 1 on eBay last year for $350, frame and fork, and have been very happy with it. I wish I could say I've won lots of races because of it but I blame the rider, not the bike. :-)
TCR is what I meant, I think??...TFerguson
Nov 12, 2003 11:23 AM
What's the dif between the TCR and OCR. I thought one was carbon and one was Al, but I see that's wrong.

TF
TCR is what I meant, I think??...McAndrus
Nov 12, 2003 7:03 PM
Having never ridden an OCR, this opinion is based on what I've read and chats with the LBS owner. The OCR is a heavier and more relaxed frame than the TCR. I'd say the OCR is for the recreatinal rider and the TCR for the aggressive rider or racer.

There are several TCR frames and last year Giant made a carbon frame the top of the line TCR. I see from a look at their website that they now offer just one TCR in aluminum and one in carbon. Until last year the TCR 0 was the top of the line and ridden by the ONCE team. Then they switched to the carbon TCR.

The aluminum TCR is a very quick and responsive frame. I don't do casual centuries on it as it's a little harsh but it's excellent for criterium racing.