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UCMA 24 Hour TT Championships - bike advice (Doug???)(6 posts)

UCMA 24 Hour TT Championships - bike advice (Doug???)Ye Olde Balde One
Jun 26, 2003 11:24 AM
I'm thinking of riding this for the first time, having never done anything longer than a double (11:37:??) and a few 12 hour TT's (in the UK), I was thinking of what is allowable for bike setup.

Assuming good backup, I was thinking of compelting the first 12hours on a more aero bike with a rear disc and deep secion front (tubulars) and aero bar setup, switching to a normal road bike with clipon's and deep section wheels for the night. Reason being that I'm never going to see as well at night, so I'll go a little more upright, plus rider comfort when it starts to hurt.

Sugestions? Is what I propose even allowed under the rules?

Jun 30, 2003 8:28 AM
My suggestion would be to have a time trial bike, but intall the Look Ergo adjustable stem. Keep it moderately low, but be prepared to raise it if you get uncomfortable. 24 hours is a very long time to be in an aero position.

This isn't the event that allows drafting, is it? Might want to check that out, as that changes everything.

I can't see any reason not to use the tt bike the whole time, even with a rear disc. I think wind conditions would be your guide, not the length of the event or darkness. With an adjustable stem, you can quickly raise the bars if you need to. That's what I did.

All that's legal. Short of using a recumbent, you can do just about anything you want.

Think about support. You'll likely be faster if you have personal support, especially with food and hydration. They can help a lot if you get a flat, etc.

legal---thanks Doug!!!Ye Olde Balde One
Jun 30, 2003 12:16 PM
No drafting is allowed (but it is a mass start!).

I'm thinking of two bikes so I can have lights on the second already installed, plus I won't want to sit on a TT bike for 24 hours...I'm also concerned about hitting road debris in the dark, the road bike will handle a little better, plus I won't be stranded with a broken disc or anything if I do hit something.

I'm going to have personal support, I want to run tubulars, and I'll carry one spare plus CO2 in a seat post bag that streamlines the seat tube in case they aren't right to hand. I'm also then going to be able to carry less fluids and food.

Next stop, Climb to Kaiser!
doing C2K?DougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 12:25 PM
There is a saying that ultra riding is about comfort, not aerodynamics. So, don't get too caught up in the streamlining of things. It's fun to focus on, but the real focus should be on comfort so that you are not doing things like sittting up all the time to relieve a sort back or neck, etc.

Yes, I would carry a spare, just in case. Might want to use Tufo's with sealant installed.

Consider a Camelbak, too. Allows you to go much longer between hand-offs, and you can drink while in the aero position. You'll probably stay better hydrated with one. Have at least two of them so your crew can prepare one while you are using one. Use a water bottle, then, for pure ice water, which you can drink or pour over your head and back if it is hot.

YOu really doing C2K?

something elseDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 12:31 PM
You'll probably want a computer with a built in light. Really helps a night, when otherwise you'll have no idea how fast you are going.

I recently bought a Specialized computer that has a light, as well as altitude, grade %, cadence, etc., but the one feature I really like about it is the countdown timer; set it for 10 minutes and it beeps at you to remind you to drink, then resets automatically. The grade function isn't reliable, but that's mostly for amusement anyway. The timer is very useful, and better than some that require a manual reset each time. Staying hydrating is absolutely critical in events this long, and having a timer helps.

doing C2K?Ye Olde Balde One
Jul 1, 2003 6:45 AM
Yes I am....let the leg hurts begin!

Having some long distance TT experience (12hr TT's), I'm looking at it from that aspect. I'm not going to do anything to compromise my comfort, but I also want to make the most of my makeup, which means that I'll do a fast first 150-200m, and then grind out a steady 18-20mph until the finish (I hope!). It all depends on the course and conditions at that point. I figure if I can save a handful of seconds an hour by carefully picking my equipment, then I'll be in a better place by a few miles in the course of 24hrs. As the overall aim is to do over 425m and therefore qualify for RAAM, then those few miles might make the difference...

Thank you for your puter comments, I didn't think about that one. I'm going to start night rides after C2K, and I'll be finding out about my night equipment under fast conditions then....

I tried using a Camelbak years ago, and found that the weight on my back causes me problems with an old back injury, so I stick with two bottles, but may use an aerobar mounted one so I don't have to change positions to drink.