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Best Crit Wheels(14 posts)

Best Crit WheelsFranchise
Jun 12, 2003 6:59 PM
I was wondering what suggestions anyone may have regarding crit wheels. I currently race on open pros laced on chorus hubs. I was thinking about American Classics 350's. I've heard they spin up really quickly and accelerate very well. Would anyone suggest anything else?
Mavic Ksyriumstriple shot espresso
Jun 13, 2003 7:04 AM
Stiff, light and the hubs are like butter. I used them at Snake Alley this year and they worked great. There are lighter wheels and there are probably stiffer wheels but these are a great combo.
Mavic KsyriumsFranchise
Jun 17, 2003 4:52 AM
Thanks. I've seen a lot of K's in the local crits. I guess the masses must have gotten this one right, huh?
re: Best Crit WheelsNo_sprint
Jun 13, 2003 7:54 AM
I run the 420s and am happy so far. I also run several other sets. I'd recommend Zipp 303s or Lew or Reynolds as well. American Classic makes a set using Zipp rims too.

For me it's lightness and stiffness first. If it's mushy coming off turns when you'll do 25+ laps X 4 turns, well, that's just too much mush.
re: Best Crit WheelsFranchise
Jun 17, 2003 4:54 AM
Do the 420's spin up quickly? They look rock-solid. Can you compare them to Ksywiums? Would you recommend the 303's for crit racing? The reason I ask is because my local team can get a pretty good discount on Zipps. I always thought of them as more of a road racing wheel as opposed to a crit wheel.
re: Best Crit WheelsNo_sprint
Jun 17, 2003 8:32 AM
The 420s are seriously lightweight and not at all bomb proof. I don't expect to hammer them for 5 seasons, but they could surprise me. They are entirely different than Kyseriums. Kyseriums, other than the SSC SL are seriously heavy, non aero and bomb proof. I'd compare them to Open Pros.

The 420s compare to the 303s as follows. Both are seriously light but the 303s are quite a bit lighter. The 420 is alu, 303 is carbon. Both have had hub issues in the past. The 420s are not bomb proof, neither are the 303s. I'd say the single most popular crit racing wheel here in SoCal is the 303. A great price brand new is $800+.
my crit setup:shirt
Jun 13, 2003 8:38 PM
Mavic tubular rims, Chris King hubs and med gauge spokes. Vittoria Corsas or Conti Sprinters.

Extremely light, extremely stiff, serviceable and comparatively inexpensive.

/shirt
Which model rims do you use? [nm]speedisgood
Jun 14, 2003 7:53 AM
anodized blue Reflex [nm]shirt
Jun 15, 2003 9:55 PM
my crit setup:Franchise
Jun 17, 2003 4:55 AM
Do you have any idea about approximate cost. I didn't know Chris King made hubs. Also, what lacing pattern did you use? I was thinking about maybe trying to do a radial spoked front wheel with 2 cross in the rear. Any thoughts?
sorry, been out of townshirt
Jun 26, 2003 10:33 AM
Cost should be around $300. King makes excellent hubs. I use the lacing pattern you were thinking of...

/shirt
sorry, been out of townFranchise
Jun 27, 2003 6:56 AM
Thanks for the info. Wow! $300 is more than reasonable for tubular race wheels. Do you know if Chris King makes Campy 10spd compatible rear hubs? Are there any other nice hubs that would be comparable if CK doesn't make a compatible rear hub?
Do you use your brakes?Kerry
Jun 14, 2003 2:18 PM
If you're braking a lot in crits, then you want the lightest rim/tire combo possible. Of course, then you risk both durability and stiffness. If the crits you ride don't involve getting on the brakes for most corners, then tire/rim weight is no different than water bottle weight. The reports on the AC 350s are very mixed, with some saying they are durable and that AC has figured out how to make a 350 gm rimmed wheel as strong anybody else can do with 410-420 gm rims. Others have had durability problems, and still others fall back on the fundamentals of engineering and material properties - 350 can't be as strong as 410, all else constant, and the other rim makers aren't stupid. I'd say that if you are just missing out on the top places in crits, then better wheels will help you a bit. Otherwise, "it's not about the bike."
or, more importantly, do you ever accellerate?DougSloan
Jun 17, 2003 4:01 PM
Isn't that the real question? I think just about any brake system can adequately handle the extra inertia of any wheel. Using power to accellerate them is the problem.

Doug