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training for next seasonweiwentg
Nov 27, 2002 9:20 AM
the plan is as follows:
collegiate road season, late Feb to late Apr. I'll be going all out for that one, and it'll be a 2 races a week affair.
local road/MTB season, first two months of summer. I'll be contesting that as well, but I'm not going to race as much.
next two months of summer break: rest, maintenance training, don't do much.
college MTB season, Aug to Sep. I'll be doing most races (1 a week, average), but I'll be doing base training during the weekday.
local cross season, october through december. I'll be riding as hard as I possibly can.
after that, I have 2.5 months to do enough base training to get me through the next season, which will probably look something like this one.

does this make any sense? I don't want to push too hard and burn out. my top priorities are the college road and local cross seasons. any advice from anyone?
Nov 27, 2002 11:07 AM
Well, as I've mentioned in some of my other posts, I was a collegiate athlete for lacrosse. We would play lacrosse year-round just like you are doing with biking, but the fall season was mostly inter-squad scrimmages with some scrimmages against Denver club teams and a few of the other local colleges. And then of course there is the constant training.

I would say listen really closely to what is going on in your head concerning the sport: If you are really hungry, loving it, and absolutely chomping at the bit to go compete, then go ahead and race as much as you plan on racing this year. But if you get to the point where the training starts to feel like drudgery, the races (or games in my case) start to feel more like work than fun, and you get sick of the constant pressure from your coaches and teammates, you better think about taking a break.

That is what happened to me with lacrosse toward the end of my career. I stuck it out and kept playing because I knew I only had one chance to play in college. And I'm glad I did, I had some great times. But it did burn me out pretty good on the sport (of course, I played for 13 years). I played a little this fall for the first time in two years and had some fun, but I'd still much rather go ride my bike these days.
re: training for next seasonBryanJL
Nov 27, 2002 11:32 AM

Have you done this kind of plan (intensity and volume) before? That would be your best indicator. How much more or less training does the 2003 plan represent versus 2002?

That looks like a lot of hours of training, racing, intensity and volume. Depending on your previous background, it may be fine, or it may lead to overtraining.

re: training for next seasonweiwentg
Nov 27, 2002 4:45 PM
I haven't done anything at that sort of intensity and/or volume before. this is my first year riding, although I ran for 2 years before that. I have been training pretty intensively since I started riding, though. my theoretical schedule would represent a good deal more racing, since my road season was interrupted (broken collarbone), and my MTB season was interrupted because a) I didn't have a bike until later and b) I had a LOT of work.
I turn 22 in December, if that makes a difference. and I really, really want to do very well in the collegiate road season and the cross season.
re: training for next seasonBryanJL
Nov 27, 2002 5:12 PM

Yes, this helps give a better picture.

I'd like to share my personal experience, because it's somewhat similar to yours.

Last year was my first year of serious racing and training, though I was also training the 2 years before (cycling and other stuff). This past year (2002), I put in around 350 hours training. I did around 12 races (RRs, crits, one stage race and one team tt) and that was plenty for me. I managed to upgrade through experience to the 4s, and am looking forward to a great year for 2003.

I had a few weeks of doing absolutely nothing at the end of the season, and in the middle of the season I was getting pretty tired. By the time the season ended, with a Team TT, I was very ready to rest.

I think your strengths will be your energy and determinatin. And of course you know what I am going to say next. Your weknesses will be your energy and determination, combined with your (current) lack of experience.

I do not say these things to be harsh, only to offer a perspective from my experience. I've been coached, I've done some coaching, and come from a training background. The hardest thing to do in competitive sports is get really good really fast. If you put too much on your plate, you'll start to overflow.

Do you have priority races? A, B, C races? You should list out all of your races and prioritize...A's are the one or two per year you will peak and taper for...B's are serious, but you don't taper for, and C's are races that you could skip or dono't care much about.

I would really encourage you to look at your schedule...can you really handle all of this? Work, school, recovery time, etc...these all take a toll. Take a look at the best racers...none of them started last year. You've got soooo much time, time is completely on your side. So plan prudently---you have to look at each year as a preparation for the next year, which in turn is a preparatin for the next. Don't just plan for this summer's big event....also think about how your training this year will contribute to your overall growth in cycling.

So, I don't mean any of this in a bad way, just a cautionary way. You know yourself best...but based on what you've said, I would encourage you to try and scale back a little. If you try and be great at everything, you risk a lot of burnout. One step at a time.

Good luck, post again for more dialogue.

Lots of good advice!James OCLV
Dec 4, 2002 8:53 AM

I thought that your post was right on the money. I especially liked the comments on the need to examine the other "stressors" in life aside from training. Stress is stress, no matter where it comes from (training, managing a college schedule, work, etc.)


The only thing that I would add to help avoid burnout would be to make sure to schedule a transition period in after your first peak. In your case, this would probably fall around late April. Add in some base work before trying to peak again in June. Do the same after the end of your MTB season, before starting your cross season.

You'll be walking a fine line after the cross season, though. Going right into Base is OK, but it's generally advisable to have a short transition period before starting your next season.

Your schedule can be done; I've seen others like it before. The only drawback to being relatively "fit" all of the time is that your peaks won't be as high for your "A" races... That's a compromise that you will have to live with, and depending on your goals that might be okay.

Hope this helps!
re: training for next seasonWoof the dog
Nov 30, 2002 1:17 PM
why concentrate on collegiate? You don't get any upgrades out of it except from a 5 to a 4. collegiate doesn't count in the real world. As a matter of fact, collegiate categories D thru B are never ever harder than any cat 4 race in my experience. People can ride in the A category successfully but still be no better than a cat 4. College stuff is great for preparing one for the real world out there, but it ends at some point. What happens once you finish your four years? Will you still be wearing your collegiate team kit?

Collegiate road season is a lot of racing and i think it burns people out. Your summer season will never be the same if by May ~10th you've already done 15 races.
Only experience and miles can keep you going thru that imho. So keep that in mind, because come summer you will still want to go out and hammer like you used to in March, but you won't be able to.

something to think about

Woof the dog.