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"Junk Miles"Gios Rider
Nov 10, 2002 9:12 AM
Would someone please explain the concept of "junk miles." I though all miles were good miles.

my definitionLC
Nov 10, 2002 10:32 AM
Too fast for working on arobic conditioning, but too slow for working on strength so your making yourself tired but not getting any stronger. It is generally thought that this occurs at 80-85% of Max heart rate.

I think that there is however a short period of time that is appropiate for junk miles. Right after completing your base miles phase doing some junk miles right before race season or harder training rides get your joints ready for the harder efforts and keep yourself injury free.
my definitionJon Billheimer
Nov 10, 2002 11:25 AM
My understanding of junk miles is mileage ridden without a specific purpose. Example, you have finished a structured workout, but the workout called for a total time of 2 hours. You've done what you set out to accomplish, cooled down, etc., but there's 20 minutes left, so you ride around for 20 minutes. Those last few miles are junk miles.

If you generally ride without a purpose, specified training intensity or skill focus, you are by definition riding junk miles. Coming off a race season, however, some unstructured riding can be a good thing. Everyone needs a mental and physical refresher from time to time.
ot: what gios do you ride? nmcollinsc
Nov 10, 2002 2:25 PM
ot: what gios do you ride? nmGios Rider
Nov 10, 2002 3:53 PM
A-90. ~3 yrs. old.
thinking of buying the Carbon...collinsc
Nov 10, 2002 5:24 PM
but I'm not near Excel, so I'd be buying on faith. Ever ridden one?
thinking of buying the Carbon...Gios Rider
Nov 11, 2002 8:54 AM
I don't live near Excel either. Service was great though and I have been very happy with the bike. Just recently I broke the Gios embossed seat collar and Excel sent me a new one at no charge.

Check out the the Carbon Plus at the Gios website if you haven't already. Very nice.
re: "Junk Miles"Veloflash
Nov 11, 2002 10:32 AM
There was a school of thought amongst exercise physiologists that the zone between fat being predominantly utilized as a fuel and glycogen being predominantly was not benefitting either energy system.

To me junk miles is when you do not train within a predetermined zone but all over the place. Unfortunately, group rides tend to have this result.

Sustained rides at 5-10 beats under LT produces the best return for your efforts. Intervals for power and recovery. Both improve V02max.
Junk miles is kinda harshREPO42
Nov 26, 2002 10:47 PM
Yes indeed you do want to train specifics, but any riding is good riding. As stated above you should have specific goals for a training ride. Whether it be intervolts, hills, sprinting, etc. But be carefull of what you term junk miles. My recovery rides(about 1 a week, and I train 4-5 days a week)tend to be very easy going. I spin in a 39 front and keep my heart rate below 155 or so. Even though I am not getting any cardio from this, it is giving my legs and mind a chance to recover from the other training days. So junk miles can actually be beneficial.
In a good training schedule there will be days you should have a recovery ride/junk miles, but there should be a balance between knowing when to push yourself and knowing when to back off, recover and enjoy.....good luck