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Does this make sense?(8 posts)

Does this make sense?dabronx
Oct 18, 2002 11:25 AM
Does training with a heavier bike during the off season make any sense? I'm thinking, e.g. when a batter swings two bats prior to batting.
Overtraining?McAndrus
Oct 18, 2002 12:40 PM
Personally, I think not. I used to think that until I became enlightened to training based on factors like heart rate.

Say I'm training for racing and my plan calls for intervals for a certain time length and a certain heart rate. My heart doesn't care if my bike weighs 18 pounds or 20 pounds. It just wants me to stop pushing it so dang hard. :-)
Winter beatermass_biker
Oct 18, 2002 12:44 PM
I have a winterized bike that weighs in at a good 30 lbs or so (steel 631 tubed frame + fork, fenders, 700x28 armadillos, 36 spoke rims). Tough to keep up on those Spring group rides (but easy to take care of, and the fenders make you a popular guy in the pack). I basically ride that beast from December through early March.

All I know is when I hope back on my racing bike it sure feels nice (and light, and responsive etc. etc.)

MB
re: sense?allervite
Oct 19, 2002 8:02 PM
It all depends on how you train. You could ride a 100 pound bike all winter, and it would not help if you train badly. You could ride a 15 pound bike and train correctly and have fantastic results.

The heavy bike could help a bit with strength training.
GearingRockyMountainRacer
Oct 20, 2002 3:30 PM
What about just throwing on a cassette with a few less teeth than the one you normally ride? Wouldn't that do the same thing as riding a heavier bike (for strength training)?
Easier yet--allervite
Oct 20, 2002 8:22 PM
Shift up. As with all strength training though, watch those knees. 3 months off with tondonitis or worse can really screw up your training.
How early to start on the bike strength training?RockyMountainRacer
Oct 21, 2002 9:58 AM
I was thinking about throwing on my 11-23 cog instead of the 12-25 I use now to force myself to at least climb in the 23. I am a spinner type climber who prefers to sit and spin the 25 up climbs (probably from my mtb background).

In any event, "force", or the ability to turn a big gear is my weakness. I am lifting weights now to help with it. How early would you start on the bike strength training? I will be doing the "muscle-tension intervals" of big gear grinding on flats, and also do intervals of climbing in harder gears than I am used to.

I am still riding quite a bit (at least 3 days a week), but nothing structured, just good long rides.
IMOallervite
Oct 21, 2002 3:01 PM
Begin with your focus on lifting and supplementing a little on the bike strength work. As the winter goes by, gradualy shift your focus to on the bike stength training. This way the cycling muscles will get a good recovery, the leg muscles will be shocked into an improvement in strength with the new stress and you won't burn out on the bike. I'd say keep the rides fun right now. Get on the MTB and explore.