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saturn classic predictions?Gutterball
Aug 8, 2002 9:17 AM
I was checking over the teams
looks like it's gonna be a battle...Vaughters team will definately be try to push the pace and make the early selections...Same goes for Mercury.

I have a few friends racing it and I'm a little jealous...And now I'm just obsessing about it.
Here's my predictions for the top 5:
Tom Danielson
Jonathan Vaughters
Scott Moninger
Jose Adrian Bonilla
Danny Pate

I'm sure that I'm off on a few, but Tom is definately going to win it (as long as he can keep his bike upright and stay off the pavement/gravel).
Aug 8, 2002 2:00 PM
Why are you jealous? Have you ridden in that race at all or even on that course? It SUCKS. I turned down three teams that wanted me to do that race this year and I am not alone. Although, to be honest, a person from a fourth team asked me to help him and I did agree to do the race for him but then we found out it was too late to get me on the roster. But still, I wasn't bummed out at all. That course just SUCKS. Besides, for us speedsters, the real race is on Sunday - Bannock. Too bad that's not the one that ESPN2 is going to air. At any rate, you shouldn't be jealous. FWIW, I am sure that if you really wanted to race in it, someone would have taken you. From the sounds of it, some teams were really looking hard and they were asking just about every cat.1 with even a smidgen of climbing prowess.
Aug 8, 2002 3:41 PM
I'm just a 3 this year and I don't want to upgrade until I feel like I can be competative in 2s. I'm jealous because I'm not good enough to finish that race...I love epics, and I hope to race it next year. I know it sucks, but that's its appeal to me.
Aug 8, 2002 6:23 PM
1) While riding today with a notable local pro, he predicted Danielson strongly. Didn't Danielson just win in China or something?
2) Gutterball, you'd do fine as a 2. It's too bad you're so far away, I'd like to see you do cross up in here, you'd dominate. How's yr mtbing going?
Aug 9, 2002 8:03 AM
Danielson did just win a race in China...although I haven't been able to find results of that race on the internet. He's the only guy this year to pull away from me on the flats when I was on his wheel -- mano-a-mano...Get him on a hill and he doesn't seem to slow down -- I usally drop like an anchor.
I think that I am going to come up for one cross race. Cross used to be my A season because it was the only thing that I was good at. Now its my C season, right along with the beer and nachos season. I still love a good cross race.
Mountain biking has been pretty diappointing. I broke a chain in snowmass and got a flat tire on the first lap of the nationals race in Durango. A flat normally wouldn't be too bad, but the Durango XC course was like doing a crit on a sidewalk...My group had a hard time getting through everybody, then I got the flat and I just had to hop back into the parade and hope that I could get by enough people for a top 5 spot...That didn't happen. I'm going to send in my upgrade anyway and hope that Rogene is forgiving.
Aug 12, 2002 5:00 AM
why does it suck? Seems like an awesome race to me. They have to beg people to ride it? What's so bad about it, is it too hard for most people?
Aug 12, 2002 7:30 AM
Well, I shouldn't say that it sucks but it really does kind of suck. Yes, it's really hard but I don't think that's any real deterrent - after all, it's a challenge. Rather, there are some specific reasons that I don't like it that much. First of all, there are two crazy dirt roads, one is so bad on the descent that you need a mtb to descend. Personally, that's not my favourite kind of road race. The bigger problem that I, and others, have is that the 80 mile mark, anyone more than 20 minutes down is removed from the race. At the 80 mile mark, it is reasonable that a strong cyclist but a not-so-good climber could start to pull back a little time and maybe get back in a group with some others and finish reasonably decently. So unless you are a top climber, there is less reason to even start because you will not be allowed to finish as part of the race. Now, there is a reason for this and it relates to rolling closure of the road but I think that anyone who finishes within a reasonable time cut at the finish, in or out of the road closure at the 80 mile mark, should be counted. Furthermore, I cannot help but feel that the removing the riders numbers at the 80 mile mark is 75% for the illusion of making the race sound harder than it is. It sounds much harder to say 107 starters and 17 finishers than does to have 107 starters and 56 finishers.
Aug 12, 2002 10:05 AM
If you've done 80 miles, what's another 60 to let people finish? That's a bit lame. I also think they should make them use cyclo-cross bikes instead of MTB's, it seems like cheating to me. They don't use MTB's at Paris-Roubaix !!
Gutterball (off topic)Allen az
Aug 8, 2002 9:45 PM
Have you been hanging out at lately?

Gutterball (off topic)Gutterball
Aug 9, 2002 8:23 AM
No, It's a roadie term that I've learned the hard way...bowling is pretty fun too though.