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Denver Federal Center ClassicBipedZed
Aug 5, 2002 5:40 AM
2.2 mile circuit race with about 100 ft of elevation per lap (instead of the 300ft per lap advertised). Other than numerous potholes course is pretty safe. Arrive and register as the small Women's 1/2/3 field is about to start (LFR there was a separate 3 category of 2 women). Most of the 3s I see in the parking lot are pretty burned out from the season and rather ambivalent towards the race. The pace is fast from the start and I do my usual hanging on to the back for the first half of the race. Hey there goes PackMeat. tihipscrew and I hang out at the back and then wow, there he goes to the front. At the half way point I finally warm up and start to feel good. Move up on the outside and position myself well for the back right hand corner and cool I'm in the top 3rd. Catch a brief conversation PackMeat is having about getting a haircut at GreatClips. Down to 2 laps to go and a few drops of rain start and I begin thinking how to maybe win the thing or at least place well. Last lap mid pack and guys are tiring and I'm getting stronger. tihipscrew launches a nicely timed attack and is immediately joined by a RRV guy. They don't hold on though and I wimpishly back down in the final 1K. The desire to not crash still greatly overwhelms my desire to win. Must address that next season.

Question to anyone with input, even with a focused 30 minute warmup with several 2 minute LT intervals it seems I'm always just hanging on in the first half of a 60 minute race. But then like magic I get stronger and comfortable with the pace while the fast starters start to weaken. On a flat course this is less damaging as I can hang on, but on a more selective course I'm off the back until I warm up then I'm the strongest guy in the chase group.

The key seems to be getting a warmup of adequate intensity, like perhaps doing the 35+ race first - except I'm 31. Any suggestions?
re: Denver Federal Center ClassicPack Meat
Aug 5, 2002 6:53 AM
Get in another 30 minutes of warm up and it sounds like you'll hit the ground running. I think this time of year it takes even longer to warm up and get moving and hell, you're 31, what do expect? You may also want to consider doing an early morning ride on the days with the late afternoon races. An easy hour in the morning might be just what you need. When I was racing in Illinois in May I was hanging with Kenny Labbe and Robbie Ventura, they'd be getting back from their morning ride around the time I'd be going to lunch. They would do around 2 hours in the morning.

That finishing stretch was sooooooo fast. I topped out at 41.9mph. My teammate won, I have no idea how he made it through after the last corner, he was boxed in with 200 m to go, the guy has an amazing kick. I wish I had an 11 but I thought there was going to be more of a hill so I stuck with the 12 cassette.
Thanks, I'll do a 1hr warmup ride before Bannock (nm)BipedZed
Aug 5, 2002 7:03 AM
geez, do you hafta rub it inlonefrontranger
Aug 5, 2002 7:03 AM
Federal Center was a race I *really* wanted to go to. I'm still about 3 weeks away from riding the bike outdoors.

Hmm, 2 riders does not bode well for my agenda of trying to get the ACA to run Women 3 separate from the 1/2s, does it? Figures, every other race the bulk of the 1/2/3 field is made up of 3s all crying about getting dropped in the first few laps. This is what (as a teammate and promoter both) frustrates me the most about women's racing: you give 'em the stuff they're bitching about and they don't pay up. Grrrr!
3sBipedZed
Aug 5, 2002 7:12 AM
There were maybe a dozen in the 1/2/3s. I saw a TMobile (who won), FRCA, Monsoon, and Rona. I happened to be near the start when the official asked the 3s to raise their hands and only 2 went up. Not sure if they started them a minute behind or not.

I noticed Beth Fisk took 2nd overall in the Danskin Triathalon. As an aside, I read in the paper that a spectator at the triathalon stepped out in front of a cyclist going 35mph on the downhill section of the bike leg. The cyclist slammed into the woman and the spectator is in critical condition at Swedish Medical. Her husband blames the race organizers and will sue - puportedly for not having a marshall there to save her from her own stupidity for walking out onto a race course. There goes the Danskin Triathalon.
Actually,Sherpa23
Aug 5, 2002 11:34 AM
I was there at the Danskin watching my wife, which was part of the reason that I did not do the Fed race. I was at the scene of the accident. It was entirely the woman's fault and guess what? There was a marshall but the group she was in just chose to ignore it. I wrote a letter to the Rocky Mountain News about it. Anyways, see you at Bannock. This is time for me to start getting back into winning form. I have signed on for some stage races overseas in Sept. and Oct. so it's full out from here to December.
Next weekendBipedZed
Aug 5, 2002 11:51 AM
Are you going to ride in support of JV? I saw him at Meridian last Tuesday and at the Fed race.

There's a profile of Jonas Carney on bike.com. He has a quote about being a successful field sprinter - "Part of your brain must also be absent; the part that tells you you're in danger." Know any good brain surgeons?
Next weekendSherpa23
Aug 5, 2002 12:08 PM
We had talked a bit about my helping him for the Classic (just until Idaho Springs and then I would still be fresh for Bannock) but when we talked to the team manager, he had already given away the last spot on the team for the Classic. No biggie, as I will leave me to be good for Bannock. I had to fly out of town unexpectedly for a family emergency last week and I still have not recovered from the trip and I was climbing like utter crap these last few days so it might be just as well. As far as brain surgery goes, after you crash a bunch in field sprints, that part of your brain gets cut off anyway. My coach once told me, "when you crash in a sprint and get up with a hard on, that's when you know you're a field sprinter." You're just too new in the sport. Plus I think that you race Cat. 3's so there's a low, low level of trust and predictability - kind of like racing in Venuela or Argentina. If you want, email me and I will give you some good hints and we can practice some stuff.
guess I need to fall down some morelonefrontranger
Aug 5, 2002 8:10 PM
... because obviously I've not removed that part of my brain yet. I've been wondering myself how I'm going to get past that crash at Niwot. I have felt myself getting progressively more tentative all year, and now I've crashed because I panic braked like a Cat V in their first spring crit. Prior to this year I'd always been one of the bigger risk-takers in the field and would have bet my handling skills against almost anyone's. Now I'm not so sure.
No worriesSherpa23
Aug 6, 2002 11:32 AM
I wouldn't worry about it. I did not pay much attention to that after my accident but when I started jumping into races again, I realized that I was as confident as ever. I slip into small holes, refuse to be squeezed out, and a couple of times, I have put my handlebars (42 cm o-o) into some 43cm gaps to avoid losing position. In short, I would say that I have decided that racing is too much fun to not assert myself. Just because I had to bad luck to have been involved in a crash and broke my pelvis does not mean that I should be content to lose postions and races. So don't worry about it. When you get back into racing, you will definitely be back to your old self.