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Proof that I'm still actually "riding"(14 posts)

Proof that I'm still actually "riding"lonefrontranger
Aug 2, 2002 9:30 PM
despite the cb injury. Love how the SO gave me no warning or time to fix my makeup before snapping the pic :)

Took ColnagoFEs and shirt's advice and have cut off the Perc, they are right it's bad sh1te.

Of course now I can't sleep...
and here's one of the SOlonefrontranger
Aug 2, 2002 9:38 PM
this is at Niwot but not in the Death Corner. It's merely the first of 2 nasty 170s. He's the guy in blue with the black Limar helmet and the blue Colnago.

I like how you can't tell that he's something like sixty guys back at this point :-P
yikes, both household members on Colnagos????weiwentg
Aug 2, 2002 10:00 PM
get well soon! I'll try to win a race for you ... although I don't think that's going to work :p
Aug 3, 2002 9:19 AM
but you'll notice I'm riding the trainer on the Morgul; another fine bike. Not in league with the Dream but a great crit bike on it's own merits. The irony of crashing at Niwot was that I was racing the Morgul Bismark (they are made in Niwot) and the frame builder had seen me earlier that day. He gave me the whole history of my particular frame, seems he definitely remembered building it and even knew the name of the person he built it for. The sad part is that the frame then sat at Rainbow for a long time - he says it's four years old.

We have a hookup on the Colnago thing. Of course they're still daggoned expensive at cost, and that's all I have to say about that.

Good luck. Don't bother trying to win one, just be smart and keep the rubber side down :) You're still a first year guy as I recall, right? Took me three seasons to win a mass start race, and now I'm beginning to think I just don't have the minerals for crits after all.
actually I'm domestiquing someone else this raceweiwentg
Aug 3, 2002 6:00 PM
and yes, I am a first year guy.
Off topic......... although it's nice to see you training againJohnG
Aug 5, 2002 6:06 AM
Was building the Dream Cross this weekend and "discovered" that the 103mm Campy BB and Record cranky no likey this frame. I.e. the wider chainstays need a wider BB with this crank.

I backed out the BB on the right side and measured the extra offset need and it turns out to be just under 3mm. Sooooooo, a 6mm wider BB would work.......... Campy only makes one other size which is 111mm and that's close enough. My "problem" is that I remember my old 111mm Campy BB to be pretty flexy on my old triple. :( I had a Daytona BB in that bike and there is a new Record BB available so may the Record is a bit stiffer. ?????? Any idea???

BTW, what BB and crank do you have on your cross frame???

ride on


hmmmmmm, I like Doug's suggestion. ;)
that's what drove my decision to use Daytonalonefrontranger
Aug 5, 2002 8:10 AM
I consulted with the guys at Vecchio's here in Boulder before I did the build. They are probably the last word in how to build *anything* with Campy. They are the ones who strongly recommended I use Daytona (actually it's Centaur) rather than Chorus because of the BB spindle length. Their crank recommendation was to either use a Centaur triple crank with the outer ring removed and a chainguard installed, or (the lighter, more expensive option) a TA 110 BCD 'cross crankset, which is what I decided to use due to TA's wide selection of chainring sizes. They also solved my problem of finding a compatible top-swing front mech because the Dream cabling is top routed unlike my old Redline (which ran a Campy front mech), and the rear stay clearance is a little tight to run a cable jig for a bottom swing mech if you ask me. It's those darned Rabobank boys; they use Sh*man* stuff so the XTR topswing front mech is probably what they have in mind when they build these bikes.

That TA crank is awesome and the whole 10-speed drivetrain shifts sweet and has been plenty durable in all kinds of horrible abuse. Re: flex - well I'm perhaps not the best judge of that, since (for a cyclist anyway) I don't weigh that much and don't generate a lot of horsepower. I find the Centaur BB and TA crank to be plenty stiff.
JohnG, I do have a Daytona BBweiwentg
Aug 5, 2002 5:38 PM
it's in the US, but I'll be back at the end of August, and you can have it for cheap if you want it...
Thanks but I should one by this Friday.........JohnG
Aug 5, 2002 8:20 PM
I'm going to try the Centaur (Daytona eq) 111mm BB and Record crank as a start. If the BB flex bugs me or the gearing is too tall I may opt for the Ritchey or TA crankset.

Thanks for the offer and thanks LFR for the detailed response.

no sweat. nmweiwentg
Aug 6, 2002 1:05 AM
Aug 3, 2002 1:44 PM
You know it's much cooler on the trainer shirtless :-)
Aug 3, 2002 7:38 PM
ya, I know, but that makes the old tube I'm using as a trainer sling chafe my you-know-whats and it would make my SO somewhat too interested in the proceedings to get a proper ride in ... oh, nevermind
re: Proof that I'm still actually "riding"flyinbowlofmilk
Aug 4, 2002 1:26 PM
Congradulation LFR. I hope you get better . But as for me I have lost one of 2 road bikes that I had at my storage. And I am in the process of getting the other one back from the bike shop. Next time I will lock it up in front of a bike shop on Sunday. Grrr. As far as the racing season is going, Still stoked. ( 2RR,and 4 crits) and learning alot. Gett better soon,


dude, you got your bike stolen - that sucks!lonefrontranger
Aug 5, 2002 9:05 AM
This is why all our bikes live in the house with us. Even when we had a tiny apartment in Cincy, they lived in our bedroom with us.

Good luck at the upcoming race! For what it's worth, I think the guys in the thread above are right; you need to choose the races that play to your strengths, and if you're not a climber I'd not choose the mountain one UNLESS you simply want to skip yet another crit and try it with no expectations but to find out how you do in a climbing race.