Jul 22, 2002 5:58 AM
|Hi all, I just wanted to pass on a message that Beth got hurt in a horrendous crash at the Niwot crit yesterday. She is in the hospital for observation and an MRI. She has a broken collarbone for sure but she has som hip pain that may or may not turn out to be serious. Hopefully it will turn out to be just major bruising. Even though she is frustrated with what happened but overall she is in good spirits but I am sure that she would appreciate our good thoughts. She probably will be unable to type for a while.|
|I hope she heals fast.||Pack Meat|
Jul 22, 2002 6:58 AM
|I've never met anybody that has a greater love and appreciation for bike racing than she does. The course Sunday was definately hard to handle. Pro 1, 2s were going down, Cat 3s were going down, it was hard. Before my race I walked around for about 20 minutes with the registration form in my hand trying to make the choice to race or not. It was a great day to race but the walking wounded from the Cat 4 race and the Pro race were all I noticed. I saw Beth and asked her why the hell I should race. All she said was "cause it's fun." SO I raced and had fun.
|Niwot crash fest||BipedZed|
Jul 22, 2002 7:06 AM
|Watching the mounting carnage from the 4s and the Pro/1/2s I knew it was going to be dangerous. In our race there was a crash in almost every corner for the first 3 laps, including the first corner right after the start. After narrowly avoiding the 4th crash in front of me I lost my nerve. Even Stockburger crashed on a solo break when he had 90 seconds on the field.
Good job hanging in there. It took major cojones to stay in that race.
|Annoying advice: You gotta keep moving up...||tihipscrew|
Jul 22, 2002 7:55 AM
|...even if you have to go into the wind to do it. PULLING was easier than being 15th by virtue of clean line/no brakes. I saw 2 crashes- on the first lap and about 5 laps to go. But yeah, there's a lot of luck and nerve involved. I lost my nerve with one to go, I just kept moving back with each corner. The heat was pretty bad too!|
|It was raining or what?||Bruno|
Jul 22, 2002 11:06 AM
|Maybe is the wide streets of SoCal but I cannot image a course that difficult unless its raining or the pavement is very bad. And if thats the case why continue the race if people are going to end up in hospitals.|
|Dry with good pavement.||Pack Meat|
Jul 22, 2002 12:23 PM
|One shicane, 4 90 degree corners and one 120 deg corner that was tighter upon exit than you might think. The first corner of the shicane was tighter than 90 also I think. I think Beth's crash was the worst of the day and it was the last race.
It was a very difficult course. I saw a SoCal Cat 1 rider that had gone down, he was ok, kinda scraped up, nice guy.
|Two high-speed 135 deg corners see diagram- it's tough!||tihipscrew|
Jul 22, 2002 1:08 PM
|Check out the corner of Niwot and Franklin, or "the death zone".|
|I am bummed||BigLeadOutGuy|
Jul 22, 2002 7:04 AM
|Oh man, that is terrible. Wish her my best and give her a big hug. I hope its nothing serious and she will be back to full speed in no time. Please keep us informed on how she is doing.
Rest up and heal quickly beth....us scrubs need you!!!
|Best wishes for a speedy recovery||BipedZed|
Jul 22, 2002 7:09 AM
|I'm sure you will be back strong for the cyclocross season.|
|I am sending positive vibes! Get well LFR! (nm)||tihipscrew|
Jul 22, 2002 7:57 AM
|A community prayer for LFR||brider|
Jul 22, 2002 8:27 AM
|Just in case any one wishes to join me in a prayer of healing for Beth. |
Dear Lord -- We come before you with a humble prayer for a fallen sister. Touch her with your healing hand this day, bouy her spirits, and restore her strength.
Amen, Amen, and Amen.
Jul 22, 2002 8:35 AM
|Get well Beth
Jul 22, 2002 4:29 PM
|get well soon!|
|Say it ain't so...Heal quickly Beth we are all thinking of you. (NM)||mikebikr|
Jul 22, 2002 11:00 AM
|That sucks, get well soon!||TomS|
Jul 22, 2002 11:12 AM
|I haven't even met anyone on this board in real life, but she is definitely one of the people here that inspired me to train harder and think about racing soon. Unfortunately all the talk about frequent crashes gives me cold feet.
I hope the collarbone is the worst of it and she heals quickly...
|Me too! damn pedal broke||LC|
Jul 22, 2002 12:40 PM
|My pedal broke in a sprint and down I went. The nose of my Look PP296 pedal split apart and my cleat just pulled staight out. I did not get hurt nearly as bad as LFR, but it still hurts to crash. Just lost some skin. Hope the other guys I took out are OK too. My bike is still in the hospital :(|
|re: LFR Hurt||Iseemo|
Jul 22, 2002 2:06 PM
|I'm so sorry to hear that. Hope it's a clean break, she heals quickly, and it's only the broken collar bone to worry about. Ahh....the nightmares of the figure 8 sling...... |
At least button-front shirts are in style right now! After suffering through 2 broken collarbone incidences in my adult racing life (not counting the 2 when I was a kid), I was most happy when I could get back on my bike and back into a t-shirt like everyone else.
|re: LFR Hurt- but healing, still pissed tho'||lonefrontranger|
Jul 22, 2002 5:12 PM
|typing slowly, this is John for LFR...
"Basically what happened is that I came in too hot on the Death Corner and ran into the back of the front group, which had bunched up as they slowed down. Panicked, grabbed too much brake, started to slide, got it back just in time to high side over the curb. Going over the bars would have been fine had there been a nice soft grassy lawn vs. the hard hot baking concrete sidewalk to land on. Had I just surrendered instead of fighting it, I'd have lots of road rash (a'la Stockburger), but probably no broken bones.
The word on the MRI is my hip is fine. Lots of bruising and a really sore ass. (grumpy too ) The collar bone x-rays were gruesome, about a 1 cm to 1.5 cm displacement, dead center. I'll have a nice lump, to match SO's.
That's about it. Thanks for all the messages and prayers! Thanks for the call, Sherpa. That really lifted my spirits!"
Now for some advice from weiwentg; what on earth did you do to keep from going crazy?!
|collar bone injury......... :(||JohnG|
Jul 22, 2002 5:34 PM
|Damn, that's too bad!!!! Sorry to hear about your ugly crash.
I suspect you'll be hitting the pain killers as those CB injuries are tough to sleep with. And yes the bumps don't go away completly.
Good luck with a speedy recovery and please keep us informed.
Hmmmmmm, makes me wonder about racing. ??? ;)
Note to ed: patience my grasshopper. ;)
|how not to go crazy||weiwentg|
Jul 22, 2002 11:23 PM
|1) I got on the trainer
2) I started virtual assembly (sourcing for parts) on a cyclocross bike. yes, I know, you already have one. is there a type of bike you DON'T have...?
3) I read my textbooks for the next term. yes, I am a geek.
I'm really glad to hear that the hip is only bruised - I did the same to mine when I crashed. hopefully you can start riding again soon - I'm fairly sure my break was worse. good thing you don't need an operation.
as I said, get well soon :)
Jul 23, 2002 6:23 AM
|I did the collarbone thing twice. It hurts.
I just got on the trainer and rode with one arm to maintain fitness and sanity. It helps.
|Not weiwentg, but here's what I did||brider|
Jul 23, 2002 7:43 AM
|Like weiwentg, I got on the trainer ASAP. The break happened on a Sunday in May (many years ago), and I got on the trainer on Wednesday. This was in the days well before STI, and all I had was downtube shifters. First ride was an adventure trying to shift before my weight went too far forward and I couldn't catch myself with the good arm again (left collarbone broke). I got bar end shifters that day. It wasn't until September that I was back on the road, though I did a lot of long walks, and started running as soon as I could. |
To describe -- crash in the first lap of a mountain bike race, bike tumbling 4 feet off the ground. First impulse is to get up and get going again, but only the right arm pushed. I just laid back down and waited for the medics. My buddy didn't know I'd crashed, so I had to wait to the end of the race for a ride to the hospital (though the ambulance got there about 3 minutes before the end of the race, I said at that point I'd just wait. Finally got to the hospital, and they had the audacity to take my jersey off OVER MY HEAD. After repeatedly telling them it was okay to cut it off. BASTARDS! Any way, I got to see the x-rays -- left collar bone broke into three pieces. The break started at the half way point (like yours), but the midline part came to a sharp point, and the part toward the shoulder had split in two down the middle. I've still got a good lump there, and some times seatbelts aren't too comfortable. It took me a year before I could do backstroke comfortably (I was really into triathlon at the time). Funny thing was, over 6 months later I overheard some people ina bike shop talking about this horrendous crash in a MTB race, and it turned out they were talking about me! Didn't garner me any discounts or anything - bummer.
So, don't worry. Even in the real bad cases, you'll get back on the road. Take care, wear that figure-8 brace, and DON'T do what I did -- wake up one night sleeping on the broken side. It wasn't that it was painful laying on it (I was unconscious when I got INTO that position), but getting on my back again was PAINFUL!
|Get well soon LFR!||Wannabe|
Jul 23, 2002 11:35 AM
|Keep that spirit up.
|Will be thinkinig of you LFR||allervite|
Jul 23, 2002 3:28 PM
|Have fun on the trainer for the next few months. We'll all try to win one for you!|
|Sorry about the injury LFR...||RockyMountainRacer|
Jul 24, 2002 5:48 AM
|that truly sucks, but I guess crashes kind of come with the teritory. I have yet to crash in a crit, but I'm sure that's only a matter of time. Anyway, I broke my arm in an mtb race 2 years ago, and here's what I did to not go crazy:
1.) Start running. I was doing all sorts of trail running (with a sling on!), which is not quite as fun as mtbing but still fun.
2.) Trainer of course (not fun when it's still summer!)
3.) Read a lot--probably not books on training as that will drive you crazy to get on the bike again.
|I feel your pain. Hope you get well soon. nm||nn23|
Jul 24, 2002 12:00 PM
|Glad the hip's ok. Lots of us have sore asses w/o a crash!||dzrider|
Jul 26, 2002 9:23 AM
|Don't know if your a reader, but the best I've found lately is "The Rule of the Bone" by Russell Banks. Be well and take some time healing. You won't lose a lifetime's worth of fitness all that quickly.
|Our collective spirit wishes you a fast recovery! (nm)||hrv|
Jul 23, 2002 8:28 AM
|Best wishes and hopes for a speedy recovery(nm)||Soultrain|
Jul 23, 2002 7:15 PM