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The willingness to sufferRockyMountainRacer
Jul 3, 2002 7:18 AM
As the season goes on, there seem to be more and more training days where I just don't have the desire to take the pain. This is not ussually a problem on my interval days, because I can simply take longer rest intervals to be fully recovered for the next one. However, there are days on the weekly training crit where I get near the end of the hour, the lactate starts building up, and it gets pretty easy to throw in the towell. This is not a case of being physically overtrained, as I am well rested, and I have no mental desire to take a week off. But it is a disturbing trend to me, because I've always been told by my coaches "You play like you practice," and I've always prided myself on having mental toughness. As of yet I've still been able to push it hard and be mentally strong in all my races this year, but I'm worried that if I'm starting to dog it a little in my training races, this trend could creep into the real races.

So is this happening to anyone else at this time of year, and what strategies do you use to combat it? I know if I can push it a little harder in the training crits it will pay off in the form of better fitness, but I seem to be making the excuse lately that "It's just a training ride, you shouldn't push yourself TOO hard, save it for the race."
re: The willingness to sufferNo_sprint
Jul 3, 2002 7:35 AM
You bet it's happening. To me too. I overtrained in Mar & Apr and basically fell apart in May. That combined with a bad living situation in the townhome complex led me to take May off of racing entirely. In a new house now, new attitude, better training than I've had in a couple months and feeling good on race days.

Sometimes you've just got to take it easy or even hang it up for a couple weeks. Best of luck.
re: The willingness to sufferBrokenSpoke
Jul 3, 2002 8:07 AM
It happens to everyone at some point or another. I grew up in CA and our season went from Feb to Oct with a race every weekend. Couple that with the twice a week training crits, intervals, general mileage, and burnout was common. For me, it was usually around August and quite often, I would park the bike for 2 weeks. I wouldn't even get on the bike at all. I would lose a little fitness but the change in attitude when I got back to riding was worth it. Sometimes you need the break even though you feel menatally, and physically, fine. Just my thoughts.
I'm totally therelonefrontranger
Jul 3, 2002 9:23 AM
This exact feeling was the driving factor in my decision to hang it up / slow down for the next couple of weeks. I'm done with State and I don't have anything important coming up until State TT. I might do Niwot, I might not, but I plan to take the 4th of July week(end) completely off, because I just don't feel much like riding the bike right now.

Looks like a good time for me to noodle around on my old fixie.
I'm There And At The Worst Time!BigLeadOutGuy
Jul 3, 2002 11:10 AM
Oh boy am I feeling burned out! I wish I could take a week or 2 off but I based my training and my races around the TT nationals wich are only 15 days away. Good thing I can cut down the volume now and just cruise to the nats. Once this race is over I am just going to do a couple more races to upgrade my license than i think the season is over for me.
I cant wait to get some rest!
hehe
ok, here's what I'd dolonefrontranger
Jul 3, 2002 1:58 PM
Hey there BLOG! Sounds like you've done the legwork and just need to taper properly for Nats. The mental aspect should work itself out during the taper period. The key is not to cruise too slow or take completely off, just reduce your volume to ~60% and up the intensity for 7-10 days beforehand (short >10 minute LT / tempo jumps or short speedwork drills.) The rest of the time work on your position and making yourself comfortable on the TT setup without rocking it super hard. Sounds like you know the drill.

Then, after nats, take a week completely off the bike. Go kayaking. Walk the dog. Shoot hoops. Go hiking. In other words, do anything that keeps you active besides ride your road bike.

I promise that you'll come back for your last few events of the season completely refreshed and probably flying.
but what i really wanna do is......BigLeadOutGuy
Jul 3, 2002 2:48 PM
Hey LFR!!!
Good to hear from you =)
thanks for the advice!! Ive been worign on my TT position bigtime lately....I hate it....cant seem to get comfortable =( good thing i have 2 more week to iron things out. when im done with the nats what I really wanna do is get to the nearest grocery store buy up all the ice cream and cookies I can afford and spend the next week eating myself into oblivion!!!
Hahahahaha
I wish =)
Everyone listen to Lonefrontranger!!rollo tommassi
Jul 4, 2002 8:51 AM
I see these same posts every July! ;)
Like other addictive activities, you feel guilt and withdrawal if not participating. It is harder to stop than start; if I promised to you "you will win XX race, IF you stay off the bike for TWO WEEKS", would you feel conflicted in accepting this?

So, it's That Time of the Year for everyone to:
Call your Mom and Dad every weekend
Do the dishes
See a movie
Get a date
Kiss your spouse
Hug your kids
Volunteer
Go swimmin' naked
Enjoy OLN
wash your bike
Eat well

you get the picture.....
I'm with you.STEELYeyed
Jul 3, 2002 6:44 PM
I've been training since mid-May for my first race this weekend,along with trying to keep my weight down,sometimes I feel like I am training myself into the ground. I really notice it when I don't get enough sleep. I've got races the next 2 weekends and then RAGBRAI,after that I may take a couple weeks off the bike.
re: The willingness to sufferlegs
Jul 4, 2002 9:53 AM
important message from your psyche.. rest..
it is part of training...
its a paradoxical message.. do nothing and you will go faster...
rest..
overtraining will only possibly lead you to burn out or fatigue or injury...

turn off that voice in your head that tells you to do more..
thats your superego at work.. it doesnt know jackabout recovery...

put those feet up..
Let's see, what's that saying?Kerry
Jul 4, 2002 12:53 PM
Oh yeah, it's "Flying in February, dying in JULY." A very common problem with trying to sustain a long season. Your desire to "just push a little harder" is the path to overtraining hell. Do some fun rides, take some days off, and cut back on intensity for a week or two. You won't lose anywhere near the fitness you will if you try to push through this.
Make sure you're not overtraining before you try this...hayaku
Jul 6, 2002 12:21 AM
Maybe you already have goals, and maybe you already know what I'm going to write about but in case you don't...

Set goals. Not just any old goals like "increased fitness" but make them "SMART" goals.

Specific: What do you want to do, what do you need to improve?
Measurable: How fast do you want to go, how long do you want to ride?
Achievable: Give yourself a target that you can reach in the time period, make it a challenge. Make it something that will require you to work hard.
Realistic: Related to the above point, but I'll add one more thing. Design your goals to lead you somewhere, let the goals take you to a desired achievement like winning/placing/finishing.
Timed: Give yourself a specific date by which you want to achieve a level of performance. This will add the urgency to your workouts that is often lacking during the longer periods without races.

An example from my training diary is: Complete "Utatsuyama(It's a montain where I live)" climbs from "point A to point B" in under 5minutes by june 13th.

This goal told me what I had to achieve, speed, distance, intensity, time and gave me a date that I deemed to be important to the progression of my schedule and fitness.
I'm happy to inform you that it worked, I made it up in :4.40 the week before the due date.

Be very careful that you're not overtraining though.
M.