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Stimulates in races, force harder training 4 equal results!(4 posts)

Stimulates in races, force harder training 4 equal results!Canidraftyou
Jul 2, 2002 4:24 PM
Just a thought on using stimulates during a race. If using stimulates makes your heart race, and racing in general makes your heart race. Your already going to reach MHR without the stimulates then with the assistance of Stimulates would only put your heart at risk or create a new MHR. I guess if I had a question it would be this. If you find a new MHR (there is such a thing!) through the assistance of stimulates, then does this force you to work harder in your training to get gains out of it? Once a tire has had Max. air placed in it, it takes more air the next time because the material of the tire has been force to flex. If you look at your condition the same way, then what I said above applies pertaining to working harder in our training to get the same gains!...RIGHT! Im asking, not telling! Im asking a question!

Just a thought for some of you, who are playing around with using hard supplements for assistance.

re: Stimulates in races, force harder training 4 equal results!RockyMountainRacer
Jul 3, 2002 7:26 AM
And sometimes, when you force that extra air into the tire, the material flexes too much and the tire explodes. Remember Tom Simpson? "Just put me back on my bike." Right, and then his heart exploded. I wouldn't play around with that crap if I were you, stimulants can kill you pretty easily. Ephedrine killed four American football players last summer, and Corey Stringer (the Minnesota Viking who died of heat stroke) had some in his locker. The problem with some of this junk is that not only is it a stimulant, it's a vasoconstricter, so not only do you get mega high heart rates, you also get dangerously high blood pressure. Hence the exploding tire analogy.

Well, we all have to make our own descisions, but that's my rant on the subject.
I agree, my thought on this subject is to teach with a question.Canidraftyou
Jul 3, 2002 8:28 AM
Somewhere is a kid that thinks he needs an advangate! Your are so right and thanks for your reply.

re: Stimulates in races, force harder training 4 equal results!brider
Jul 3, 2002 10:29 AM
First off, if you're talking "stimulants" such as ephedrine, then you're not on the right track. Ephedrine's main use is as a metabolism booster, and psych-up drug. The negative effects are there, and they really have no place in endurance sports.

If you're talking "stimulants" such as Coca-Cola or coffee, then the small amounts of caffeine actually have glycogen sparing properties that can lead to increased endurance. Be aware, however, that there is a limit to the amount of caffeine that you can legally have in your system, and above a certain point (defferent for every one) the diuretic properties overcome the benefits.