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preBase BuildingSoultrain
Jun 30, 2002 6:54 PM
This is my situation:
I am trying to get into top shape by June of next year.
I am out of the race scene due to location right now so,
currently I am hitting the weights hard. My fitness has suffered as I am in the weight room so much. I plan to have all of the strength that I need by October, if I keep gaining like I am now.
My good coach ME (with help of The Cyclist's bible)suggested that I Start building up miles at aproximatly 10% a week until I am at around 400 miles a week of lsd 5 days per week. Then start moving into speed work and slowly taper distance and peak intensity. With the intent of peaking in June.
This season is toast, and I won't even be in a situation to race this year, therefore, I am focusing on next. What is the easiest way to procede with periodization?
How do I keep the strength that I have gained?
Is it possible to keep that strength by doing Stomps and Sprints? If not then would it be feesable to Stay on the weights up until early May, or at least a maintenance program?
Past experience and knowledge of physiology and it's application would be of the greatest help.
Thanks for the help in advance
Soultrain
Sorry, your wrong!!! Joe Friel never said work to 400 /5 days!!!Canidraftyou
Jul 1, 2002 6:53 AM
"Sorry, your wrong!!! Joe Friel never said work to 400 /5 days!!!"

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Read it again bonehead!!!Justin Credible
Jul 1, 2002 12:47 PM
"My good coach ME (with help of The Cyclist's bible)suggested...."
Now did he say that Freil said to work to 400/5 days?
Was not quoting him. You got crumbs on your cheeks, Justin!Canidraftyou
Jul 1, 2002 3:15 PM
You, him and I know what he was saying. Sure he can change his mind after reading the postes. "Was not quoting him." The only person I quote is myself. I was letting him know. Look harder into the Hours or Miles one is doing on a 5 day schedule, with out saying it!!! For one to put in 400 miles in 5 days, they would for sure be over training, thats on pace for over 20,000 miles in a year. COACH! heck he would be riding for a Pro B team. No need for roadbikereview then! This is how I come to my conclussion. He dont know what he's talking about or he for sure is over training and needs help. If he has all the time to put in 400 miles in a week, why not do it in a 6 or 7 day schedule. Since time is on his side!

If mom says, its going to be dinner in a few! She was really saying, dont eat any snacks, I dont want you to be full before you set down with the family. I'll bet you was caught with cookie crumbs on your cheek often.

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I see you're off your meds.Justin Credible
Jul 1, 2002 4:37 PM
Sorry, there's just too many screwed up things going on in your post. I couldn't possibly find the time to address them all, be it the incomprehensible language, your total misunderstanding of the original question, or your complete lack of training knowlege.
And your last paragraph about moms and cookie crumbs, well that was just scary. Back away slowly.
Don't worry about losing strengthPack Meat
Jul 1, 2002 9:00 AM
You will lose weight strength but you will keep strength that is usable on the bike. I cut out weights by the beginning of April and go to a maintenance lift schedule of once a week of high weight low rep. Don't place so much emphasis on lifting. If you want to ride your bike faster you need to ride your bike fast. To peak in June, complete base by March 15 and begin interval and strength work. Be sure to schedule recovery periods.
Why high weight low rep. Should be low weight high rep.Canidraftyou
Jul 1, 2002 9:42 AM
"Why high weight low rep. Should be low weight hig rep.? Should it not? It seems to me, that if you only left once a week that would be alot of stress on the body part your lefting, so do low weight!

Im no GU'RU at the cycling/lefting, but have spent many years in the gym. If lefting for maintenance, try twice a week at low weight and high reps. This would only help with your cycling, also it teaches pain and performance to cohabitate. Do not seperate, for this only teaches your to have power days and endurance days. With all this said, there is a time to do power lefting, WINTER MONTHS!

Alot of room for debate!

Peace
Yep this can be debatedPack Meat
Jul 1, 2002 11:14 AM
I only have anecdotal evidence for my position. The thinking is that you get your endurance from cycling so when lifting you only work to maintain peak strength. I have no idea what the gurus say about it but I think Carmicheal says no weights once the season starts.
I forgot, I'll thought everyone was 36+ yrs old.Canidraftyou
Jul 1, 2002 2:52 PM
Allow me to make it more clear! For me "ME" working power in the winter months and low weight @ high reps during the cycling season works best for me "ME".

Thanks for allowing me express myself!

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Thanks guysSoultrain
Jul 2, 2002 2:04 AM
Actually I will be in the priviledged position of being able to ride that much in the next couple of years. I am not a pro, but I want to be a cat 2 at least. I think that these numbers are on par with the fitness that I will need to have if I want to ever have a shot.
Thanks again.
soultrain