|Question for those who race? Which frame to get?||R600DuraAce|
Jun 23, 2002 1:51 PM
|At the end of this season I am about to build myself a race-worthy bike and begin to get into racing (cat 5 of course). I would have a little over $1000 and would like to spend that much money on a race-worthy frame. I need your recommendation as to which race-worthy frame to get. I want a VERY STIFF frame because I climb with a 53 chain ring on all rolling hills. I weight about 130 lb and am currently riding a 53cm frame. I prefer a frame with a shorter top tube since I have a short torso. Frame material is not all that important as long as the frame does not weight more than my current one, 3.6lb.|
|if you're talking frame only? Giant TCR, size S or M||weiwentg|
Jun 23, 2002 4:29 PM
|what's your inseam and current top tube? that would help a bit. the TCR is great and not expensive. alternatives: CAAD5, Trek 2300 frame. if you're looking for Ti, Airborne Zeppelin, Habanero (www.habcycles.com), or Sampson (forgot website). the TCR may not fit you perfectly, but it is stiff enough.|
|if you're talking frame only? Giant TCR, size S or M||JohnG|
Jun 25, 2002 10:30 AM
|I'd go with the medium TCR if I was him. A Dale would work just as good with a slight loss in comfort. |
At 5' 9" a medium would probably be OK for him. I'm 5' 8" (with a long 32" inseam) and felt the medium had a bit too long TT.
|re: Question for those who race? Which frame to get?||LC|
Jun 23, 2002 4:53 PM
|I would not spend too much on the frame and I would not get too attached to it either. There is a good chance that you may crash and wreck the frame if you do a full race season. It won't take much racing to convince you that at Cat 4/5, it is not the frame that will make you win or lose. When you look around at the bikes at the start line, it's usually the beat up old bikes that you have to worry about. The drive train is one area that may pay off though as one missed shift can blow you right out the back of the pack.
In general aluminum is stiff, light and cheaper. You may actually like a compact frame, but it depends on how tall you, you never did say?
Jun 23, 2002 6:15 PM
|re: I gotta go with the TCR idea||cguck8|
Jun 23, 2002 9:54 PM
|I'm 5'9, 136lbs. and I can climb like hell on a compact.
They are a little more responsive in a crit and power
distribution is better when climbing because chainstays are a bit shorter. Aluminum definately, TI if you can. TI has a
life span 7 times longer than aluminum because of the
softness. However, as someone pointed out earlier, nothing
is crash proof. Go with a cheaper frame Cat. 4's love to
crash. Stay at the front no matter what.
|Thanks. Here is more information.||R600DuraAce|
Jun 24, 2002 8:22 AM
|I am about 5'9". Inseam is 31.5" or about 80cm. Top tube lenght of my current frame is 21" or 53cm center to center.|
Jun 24, 2002 10:15 AM
|I personally would not go with a compact frame. I have found that the seatpost flexes so much when I power in the saddle that the bike loses much responsiveness. The Giants are cheap and warranty replacements are available when they break although I know that it can take up to 5 months to get the new one. I think that one of the great values is last year's Trek 2300 which you can still find and also a Cannondale Caad 4 frame. I don't know how the Cannondale would fit you but a 54cm Trek should fit you.|
|Seat post flex?||mixinbeatz|
Jun 24, 2002 4:09 PM
|I race a TCR and am around 180 pounds and have had never noticed any seatpost flex(giant carbon post) even in full on TT efforts or hard seated sprints. I had a bad crash earlier in the year, broke the frame(would have broken any aluminum frame), and had a new one built up a week after the crash. Buy it from a shop that has a good relationship with the rep, and I am sure you will be happy with any warranty problems.|
Jun 24, 2002 9:25 PM
|I can see where your coming from but consider that
the person that asked the question, and myself both weigh
under 140lbs. (myself 136, and R600's @130) We haven't
got enough weight to flex a wet noodle.
Jun 25, 2002 7:37 AM
|Mixin, yes, seatpost flex is a very real occurrence, whether or not you ccan feel it. If you would like to test this, set up a video camera on the side of trainer and do some seated accels in the 53x12 with your butt planted in the saddle. If you have the stomach for more and want to check out one of scarier aspects of your Giant carbon post, set the camera up behind the trainer and move your weight around as if to simulate a turn and observe the lateral flex. Not everyone dislikes this but I am not a fan of it. In fact, I have my frames built with a seat tube extension to minimize the amount of seatpost that sticks out of the frame. Cguck, you are absolutely right, in that at your weight the seatpost flex is not much of a factor. However, R600 said that he/she wants a very stiff frame because he/she climbs in a 53 chainring. Well, why get an extra stiff frame in the first place if any excess stiffness is offset by flex in the seatpost? That's why it might be important for R600 to consider.|
Jun 26, 2002 8:22 AM
|Keep your current frame and spend the money on entry fees and hotels. Don't reward yourself with a new bike until you hit Cat III.|| |