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Does this help much?(7 posts)

Does this help much?jaybag
Jun 10, 2002 7:57 PM
I have a 5 mile hilly loop I ride. I time myself as fast as I can go 4 times around. Im BEAT after the ride. HR is around 90% but It only takes an hour to complete.

I race mountainbikes and the races are just over an hour usually.

Any advice would help how much I should do this, or if at all.
re: Does this help much?brider
Jun 11, 2002 8:11 AM
This is probably a good test of fitness, but you would only want to do this maybe once a month or so. If your MTB races are over the hour, then you need to do hard rides LONGER than race time to develop your endurance beyond your race demands.
re: Does this help much?jaybag
Jun 11, 2002 9:34 AM
Thanks Brider.
Im kindof new to specific training.
What other kinds of rides are you doing?Wayne
Jun 11, 2002 10:23 AM
You've already taken the biggest step to becoming a stronger mtn biker just by riding on the road. I'm a roadie who recently started doing some mtn biking and I find that I'm usually a good bit stronger than the guys around me even the guys that beat me. You'd probably be better off doing shorter intervals and more long steady aerobic rides. You're basically doing a 1 hour time trial, I wouldn't want to do that as a regular workout because it's probably not going to lead to great fitness gains and it may leave you pretty flat. What are your mtn bike courses typically like? Are they rolling, do they have substantial climbs, are you out West where you climb for extended periods followed by long descents? You should try to tailor your training for the demands you meet in a race.
What other kinds of rides are you doing?jaybag
Jun 11, 2002 10:59 AM
I road cycle a few times a week. Ill do some all out sprints for 2 min..then spin. Repeat.

All my races are in Wisconsin, so its very hilly (if u ever been there), but no real mountains.

I also do hill repeats, the time trial loop i explained earlier, and once a week try to do a 2 to 2 1/2 hour road ride.

I usually finish middle of the pack, or sometimes top 1/4, but cant get any further advanced. I jogged today just to mix it up, but that hurts my legs too much to do all the time.
Thanks for you input.
What other kinds of rides are you doing?Wayne
Jun 11, 2002 11:33 AM
Don't jog at all, your a cyclist not a runner! Running places alot of stress on your quads which is going to limit your cycling efforts (especially if you only run occasionally so that you don't adapt to it). Sounds like you're doing the right things. A couple of ideas might be to add 30 second all-out sprints to simulate those short power hills that often occur in mtn bike races either with full recoveries to work on your max short-term power or with short recoveries to work on your ability to repeatedly go real hard. You might want to try to add some more easy rides to build your aerobic base without overly stressing yourself. Are you varying your workouts on a weekly basis? Building up and tapering for races? I assume if you're a mtn biker you're probably not racing every weekend (or maybe you are if you have a real active racing scene in the area). Do you know when riders tend to but time into in a race?
What other kinds of rides are you doing?jaybag
Jun 11, 2002 5:14 PM
Thanks Wayne...Ill skip the jog. And try mixing it up.
I race every other weekend, and just started with the Cytomax. Hopefully that helps too.
Jay