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Flat speed vs Hill Climbing(5 posts)

Flat speed vs Hill ClimbingYeti
Jun 10, 2002 5:57 AM
My weakness last year was climbing so I worked hard on it, now I can climb with any one lost some weight built some strength and did specific intervals for hill climbing, but now my sprint is slower and my TT speed has decreased what kind of workouts can you do to actually have both climbing and flat speed. in other words What Happend?
Now you know why some people make a living at this and somebill
Jun 10, 2002 8:42 AM
don't. I would guess that the time you spent doing hills was borrowed from the time you used to spend sprinting and TT-ing, (and, what do you want for nothing? Rubber biscuits?)
The more I do this, the more I think that, at the higher levels of the sport, you truly never get something for nothing. It's all very specific, and you have to pay separately for each piece of the package.
Now you know why some people make a living at this and someJSchneb
Jun 11, 2002 9:31 AM
It would make sense that your sprint suffered, but I am curious about your TT-ing. Both Time Trialing and climbing require that you ride +/- your LT. Climbing ability is directly related to your power/weight ratio.

Lance is a good example of someone who has alot of power (TT ability) and relatively low weight compared to that power (climbing ability). Pantani, while ultra-light, doesn't pack much of a punch when it comes to power (can't TT very well). Ulrich, while has power equal to or greater than Lance, is a bit heavier (can TT very well but not climb w/the top climbers). Notice that out of all three of them (all winners of the TDF in the past 5 years) none can contest a sprint with the best.

I guess the point is sprinting uses a completely different energy system, while TT-ing and climbing use the same one. If you're a great TT-er, you should be a good climber provided that you are light enough.
re: climbing vs TTcyclopathic
Jun 11, 2002 6:34 PM
it's possible his gains in climbing is solely due to weight loss and he also lost power in process, TT would suffer.

Second, "climbing" is widely used and very unspecific term. Short/steep climbs like the one you see in spring classics require good VO2max power/weight, where climbing mountains (aka Giro, TdF) requires good LT power/weight. For TT you need good LT power. I am guessing he doesn't live in mnt area, so 2 is the case and his LT power is down. He needs to do some threshold training.
...also aerodynamicscyclopathic
Jun 12, 2002 4:38 PM
for TT you need to generate power in aero position.
Climber who can generate high power out of saddle will not TT well