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TT and Hill Climber, possible combination??(6 posts)

TT and Hill Climber, possible combination??Fender
Jun 8, 2002 4:26 PM
I've noticed that I'm a pretty good climber, since I'm able to hang with the pack and make several attacks, or at least keep the pace when an attack occurs in the hills. I've seen this pattern in many races and crits with climbs, not to mention training rides.
I'm also very interested in becoming a TT rider, mainly just to have an excuse to get a new bike. But seriously, can I be a good TT rider and still kick it up on the climbs? The main reason is to be able to jump from the group and maintain/increase my distance, a.k.a break away and have solo wins. I know Lance does it, but then again HE's THE BOSS and I'm only a cat. 4 trying to get up in the rankings.
what type of training should I do to combine both elements??
Very similarSherpa23
Jun 8, 2002 5:42 PM
It is very easy for climber to become a good tter at the Cat. 4 level because the necessary ingredients are the same for both disciplines - pain. Once you get to a Cat.2 or Cat.1 things change a bit because you start getting into "specialists" and that changes things somewhat. You mightb e awesome at both but it is more likely that you will be awesome at one and strong in the other. I was an awesome climber until I hit Cat. 2 and then I started racing against real climbers etc. Then I realised that I was really an average climber and a strong tter but a great sprinter. Now I am a little less of a top field sprinter but a great break away sprinter, which gets into even more of the specialties in cycling. But to put it in perspective, I have yet to win a pro/1 time trial and in the last year, I have consistently put down 52 minute 40k's. I am not even close when it comes to climbing.
re: TT and Hill Climber, possible combination??Woof the dog
Jun 9, 2002 5:36 AM
It appears that in the lower ranks, good tt'ers are larger built people who haul ass on the flats but are a bit too heavy for climbing. Climbing pays off more though, so practice your hills.

Sincerely

Woof the dog.
re: TT and Hill Climber, possible combination??CARBON110
Jun 9, 2002 10:18 AM
I am in the same spot you are. I am on the verge of becoming a cat 3 and I found that climbing will help my TT. I do alot of strength intervals on the hills and practice high cadence on the flats so I can push smaller gears faster and have a high power output for long periods of time with getting tired. I am 5'6 and 127 lbs. My climbing intervals and 20-30 minute cruise intervals on a flat road have helped the most. For me power is a limiter since I did no weght oom at all this winter and opted for 5- hour long ass rides instead. I nw include low cadence intervals of about 5minutes-20minutes on long hills seated the whole time to improve my strength. Be cautious though where and what part or the week you do them and make sure you give your legs adequate rest.My TTs and climbing have never been better. I just placed 2nd in my cat at a 5 miles steep uphill TT last weekend. There were alot of people thee including a bunch of pros. Good LUCK!
Julio Perez Cuapioweiwentg
Jun 9, 2002 12:14 PM
did pretty well on the last TT in the Giro. he came in (I think) just outside the hour - not spectacular, but good. and, as you said, there's Lance. also, Indurain was a monster TTer and a good climber, and Ullrich is all right (not spectacular) on the climbs.
don't pigeonhole yourself.
re: TT and Hill Climber, possible combination??brider
Jun 11, 2002 7:55 AM
I was very good at both (state titles in both TT and hillclimb TT), and could initiate more moves in the hills. The thing to remember is that a TT and a general hillclimb will involve some of the same skills, but making speed CHANGES on the hills takes you to a whole different level. A lot of poeple can make a break on a hill, but blow up immediately -- recovery is key. But, as stated earlier, the upper cats get more specialized -- you get VERY fast TTers that can't make moves in the hills, and total mountain goats that can't TT to save their lives.