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CATs and Masters(8 posts)

CATs and Masterscking17
May 25, 2002 4:12 PM
Just signed up for my first competition (a TT), obviously as CAT 5. However, I'm 35 so in the future should I be Masters 35+ or CAT 5? I'm interested in competing regardless of age in order to move to CAT 4 and maybe 3 in the future. Is Masters a separate group or is it a sub-class by age group of CAT 1 through 5? Thanks in advance for explanation/advice.
re: CATs and Mastersoldmanracer
May 25, 2002 7:36 PM
Don't know about other areas of the country but in the Southeast the Masters 35+ is the class as close in speed and competition as the Pro 1/2. Your in kinda a tough spot as far as racing in age graded classes. The thing most guys notice is the fact that most of your Masters guys have to go to work on Monday morning and tend to be a little bit sensible (at times)In the Cat.4/5 there are a lot of kids who haven't been riding very long and do some weird things at times. The deal (to me) is just don't get discouraged if things don't go as expected as far as getting dropped, etc. It will come together with time (a lot of time, miles, work, sweat, skin, money, wives )
Masters are just that, a "Master"Canidraftyou
May 26, 2002 4:27 AM
Masters are guys who have been there and done it. Like the last post, they perform right there with the Cat 1/Cat 2's. If the truth must be known, they're between a Cat2 and a Cat3 on performance. Old guys that refuse to cat down to 3 and guys in there prime at age 35 afraid to cat up to 2. Im in the same boat as you, im a cat 4 and the only time im competitive is when the race is on a flat course. Living in Arkansas thats hard to find. All the races focus on some form of hill climb.

Anyway, good luck and keep your head up. At our ages its all about your Max. ability being tested and having fun!

Peace out
re: CATs and MastersNo_sprint
May 28, 2002 9:09 AM
You can race both. I suggest you do.
re: CATs and Mastersbrider
May 28, 2002 9:27 AM
In a TT it doesn't matter (usually), but you'll only be compared (in the results) in the category you choose. Masters is treated as a separate category. In road races and crits, they run separately, so you can do both if you so choose.
re: CATs and MastersVoodoo
May 28, 2002 10:24 AM
In the Northeast at least, you need to be at least a 4 to race as masters anything. They'll sometimes do a Public/5 35+ for those new to the sport. May be different for TTs but I don't think so.
re: CATs and MastersGalibier
May 28, 2002 10:25 AM
Most road races here in Tennessee require that you be a Cat 4 or better before you can compete as a Master, so until you move out of Cat 5, Masters would not be an option. Thus, Masters is anyone of racing age 35 or older who is Cat 4 or better.
variesDougSloan
May 28, 2002 12:18 PM
Here in central Ca usually the road races are divided by Sr Cat 4, Cat 5, sometimes 4/5 combined; Masters is usually Open (1-5); or 1-3 together, and 4/5 together. Depends upon the event. Also, Masters can have different age cut-offs and groups, like 30+, 35+, 45+ and even 55+. When they have 45's and 55's, there is only one group in each.

If you have a choice, I'd pick Masters 4/5 if that is a group. It tends to be a bit more controlled than the Sr 4's or 5's, and there are fewer Expert mountain biker's coming over and cleaning up.

I made the mistake once of entering Masters 35+ Open. I got dropped in the first mile (a hill).

Bottom line, it changes by event. For nationals Masters, you must be at least a 3.

Doug