|Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||SingleThreaded|
May 24, 2002 10:42 AM
|One of the first stages of the Gyro had the lead group descending down a long straight highway about 25 km from the finish. Most were coasting with a couple up front spinning. The camera then flashed to the speedometer on a motorcycle but it was too blurry to make out the speed. One of the broadcasters then said these guys are descending at speeds upwards of 60 mph. Any of you racers out there typically breaking 60 on your descents?|
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||antoine|
May 24, 2002 11:07 AM
|I beleve it was 60 KM/H (37.5 MP/H).|
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||Wannabe|
May 24, 2002 11:59 AM
|Well, I think you are talking about the stage into Liege. There is a long descent into Liege. Yes, they were descending at 90-100km/h if I remember.
do I reach these speeds? No. I came close once, hitting 50mph just briefly. that was a decade ago. Talk to the folks that ride in the rockies or out east. I bet they've hit these speeds.
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||Thoth2|
May 24, 2002 12:36 PM
|I had a race a couple of weeks ago w/ a 2.5 mile 8% descent in it. I hit 54mph and spun out my 53X11 well before I hit that speed. That was pretty much balls out; I hit that speed about 1/4 of the way down and didn't gain anymore speed after that.
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||distinctHead|
May 24, 2002 12:44 PM
|regularly descend at 60+ MPH :-D That's the only thing Connecticut is good for!!! ;)
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||SingleThreaded|
May 24, 2002 1:24 PM
|Yes, that city sounds familiar. I've likewise hit low 50s but it felt like I was in a free fall on a short steep. I was completely spun out on a 53-12 and unfortunately my cateye doesn't measure max rpms; a quick glance showed something in the 130s but that was before top speed at 51.7. The descent shown on this stage was steep but didn't look like a drop-off. I was thinking the broadcasters got confused and thought 60kph, but I thought that would have been too slow, or not worth mentioning. 60mph sounds plausible, but not on my bike, and probably not 3/4 the way through a stage. But then again I've never drafted four pros down a mountain in Europe.|
|yup...routinely get over 50MPH||ColnagoFE|
May 28, 2002 7:43 AM
|in Boulder/Denver area. not that hard to do on a long and relatively straight descent. My fastest so far is 56 but with the right condtions 60+ would be easily doable. I only have a 53x12 which for me is good up to the upper 30s...then it's gravity.|
|yup...routinely get over 50MPH||50sjock|
Jun 10, 2002 2:57 PM
|Yes,50+ is not only possible, it's an everyday
thing in the Rockies. I also live in the Boulder area
and my standard lunchtime ride is the Morgul Bismarck or
portions thereof. If you know the Morgul, it's one of those
courses where you can average 20+ by going 8 or 9 on the Wall and 45+ down the backside. Another good one is Sims south off 128 on the west edge of the Jeffco Airport. I got up to 52 or something like that, but that only happens on days with no crosswinds or Budweiser trucks on the radar screen. My winter sport is Masters Alpine ski racing, and I've been clocked in the low 70s in downhill. And, yes, I've lost a shoe at warp 7 and did a safety dance with the fence. Crashing on skis is usually okay if you remember to do the bowl-of-Jello thing. I'm basically a pretty cautious
descender on a bike, though. No desire to take a trip to MacDonald's coming off a road bike at 50+. I used to race a little but not any more...my hat's off to all the Cat whatever's out there doing it every weekend...
|re: Are these guys really coasting at 60 mph?||brider|
May 24, 2002 1:23 PM
|Did a Cat 4 stage race several years ago (10+) in Wenatchee WA, and we had a descent to the river where I was going 53 mph and being passed like I was a fencepost (on the first lap) (I think there were 21 people in the field that day). Any way, we hit a good hairpin turn, and all I could smell was burning breakpads. We opened back up and were right back up to 50 mph right away. The field regrouped pretty quickly at the bottom (headwind), and subsequent laps on that descent didn't produce quite the same speeds, but they were still pretty fast.|
May 24, 2002 4:20 PM
|We have a few hills here in the Blue Mountains that a few locals have topped 100 kph on. (60mph plus).
Two spring to mind, rural roads, steep and more or less straight. Couple that with a fair tailwind and 100 kph is on the cards and spinning out all the gears is assured.
The road sure comes at you fast at these speeds.
|Yes, and leave it to the pros!||DBK|
May 24, 2002 10:31 PM
|While you may find some amatuer racers breaking the 60+ barrier, my advice is to STAY FAR AWAY!!! I have raced in both the US and Europe, and have seen horrible crashes involving even experienced riders. I have also seen inexperience amatuers playing russian roullette on downhills. There is no room for error in this discipline. Screaming down a mtn at 60 is certainly a rush, but one error can prove fatal. If you really want to fly down hills, find a good coach or if your lucky, a pro who knows what he/she is doing.|
|Enlighten us then||Woof the dog|
May 24, 2002 10:37 PM
|what is it that one should be doing?
I would also like to know all the gory details on those horrible crashes, as much blood and detail as possible, please.
You said A, you gotta say B now!
Woof the dog.
May 25, 2002 10:10 AM
|There seems to be a propensity for the commentators to inflate the actual speeds. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "they're doing over 40 MPH right now" and then the video kicks in with the riders obviously doing way UNDER 30 MPH.
I'm sure these guys do fast decents and fast flat work but IMHO, there's no need to inflate the actual speeds.
|speed inflation||Merckx fan|
May 26, 2002 5:48 AM
|Just now I heard Paul Sherwin say that riders would be doing over 70 mph on one of the hills on today's TT course.|
|He probably said 70 kph, not 70 mph||Kerry|
May 26, 2002 4:34 PM
|or maybe he mis-spoke. It's highly unlikely that there would be a 70 mph downhill in an ITT. 70 mph is a tight tuck down a mountain pass (with a straight, steep section).|
|He probably said 70 kph, not 70 mph||Merckx fan|
May 26, 2002 5:52 PM
|I'm sure he didn't mis-speak. The first time he said it as 110 kph, close to 70 mph. Then later in the broadcast he reiterated that they were doing 70 mph.|
|ditto, I heard the same comments......||JohnG|
May 26, 2002 9:22 PM
|TOTAL BS if you ask me. The video showed em going much slower than that down what looked like a pretty steep hill.
|ditto, I heard the same comments......||DougSloan|
May 28, 2002 7:59 AM
|Sometimes they show the motorcycle speedos, but then the motorcycles might be accellerating to catch a rider. Not very meaningful.|
|could be...I think some stages they are over 70MPH (nm)||ColnagoFE|
May 28, 2002 7:40 AM
|I've done it; I don't see why they couldn't nm||DougSloan|
May 28, 2002 7:57 AM
|Damn ... which 60 or 70?||SingleThreaded|
May 29, 2002 10:55 AM
|Where are you located that gravity is so friendly? Here in Rhode Island we only have hills and today I could only muster mid 40s, good days on a specific rural backroad I can see low 50s, but your talking 20 mph more. Most highways are graded so trucks can climb and safely descend thus removing some of the steepness and there is very little chance of assistance from a tail wind at 60 mph.
I still tend to believe the OLN commentators are sampling some of these speeds as the motor bikes speed away. I can accept the prolonged breakaways at 30 mph. But, I'll have to send Lance an email to get the real scoop about this coasting at 60 mph stuff and stage descents at 70mph. Sounds like a good reason for installing some kevlar in my shorts.
|64 -- Calif mountains nm||DougSloan|
May 29, 2002 12:12 PM