|crashing with speedplay||ishmael|
May 2, 2002 8:23 AM
|i just traded for some speedplay pedals, they work great but im worried that i wont be able to unclip in a crash and this would be bad..do you have any experience crashing (speedplay or other) that could shed some light on the dangers of being unable to unclip in a crash..|
|re: crashing with speedplay||mixinbeatz|
May 2, 2002 8:30 AM
|On Saturday I crashed pretty hard and my bike was 25 feet away when I landed on my back. Subsequently the speedplays released just fine. For me, if the crash is severe enough, I always seem to "magically," separate myself from the pedals without even thinking about it.|
|re: crashing with speedplay||brider|
May 2, 2002 8:48 AM
|KNow a lot of guys using Speedplays, and never heard of some one not being able to separate when needed (or the usual separation that happens in a crash). I HAVE seen a few very strong guys pull out of the pedal in a sprint (usually from worn cleats).|
|re: crashing with speedplay||RockyMountainRacer|
May 2, 2002 8:55 AM
|Clipping out is not much of a problem with speed plays, I have been using them for 2 years and have never had a problem getting out whenever I wanted to. I crashed with them twice, both were not bad crashes, but I was able to get out just fine and seperate from the bike completely.
The real worry about Speedplay is actually getting into them. You need to keep the cleats very clean and not walk around on dirt or you WILL NOT be able to get in as the cleat grooves fill with muck quite easily. If you keep them clean and lubed they are excellent pedals and very light as well. Don't find this out the hard way like I did walking around like a dumb ass at race registration and then not being able to clip in when the race started! Doh!
|re: crashing with speedplay||jessah|
May 2, 2002 4:07 PM
|I have had speedplays for the past year and have found them to be the easiest to clip in and out of above other pedals.|
|no worries||feathers mcgraw|
May 2, 2002 4:23 PM
|Sadly I have some experience in this. Seems if the force is great enough you'll come out of the pedals no problem. Went down a couple of times and got out of the pedals without twisting out. And I've never unclipped in a sprint.|
|They don't always release when you low-side||speedisgood|
May 2, 2002 5:22 PM
|I've had a few crashes where the pedals didn't release because I slid out in a turn and my leg got trapped between the ground and the bike. No tumbling, just sliding.
Speedplays, especially when new with new cleats, don't want to release when you twist your foot in. Which is, of course, the only way for your foot to go when you low-side.
Now that my cleats and pedals are worn in, they release twisting in, but with a little bit of force. I think this is a good thing, as I still don't accidently pull out.
May 3, 2002 9:45 AM
|I watched a guy blow out of his Speedplays right in front of me in a field sprint. Another reason I'm sticking with my antique Shimano/Looks...|
|and if he happened to be wearing Looks or Shimano's?||climbo|
May 3, 2002 9:49 AM
|what would you do?|
May 4, 2002 5:06 PM
|You use Speedplays, right? The point, genius, is that I've seen people (yes, more than one) blow out of Speedplays in a sprint. I haven't seen that with Looks. I've never done it myself in 16 years of using Look/Shimanos. What do you want, a fu%$in' scientific study?
May 4, 2002 6:35 PM
|probably a combo of strong person + worn cleats (as posted above).
May 6, 2002 8:51 AM
|you guessed right, I've used them for about 2 months and I haven't pulled out of them yet. I have done with Looks once but your post didn't indicate any real reasons to not use Speedplay's, and you didn't say you had seen it MANY times, it was just a question, genius!|
|You've blown out of Looks?||shirt|
May 6, 2002 9:34 PM
|What did your cleats look like? Honestly? You can't let em wear too much...|
|You've blown out of Looks?||climbo|
May 7, 2002 6:23 AM
|honestly, yes, they were worn. Same goes for Speedplay, if they are very worn or dirty/clogged up they won't engage properly but if you keep them clean they are great.|
|**I've** blown outa Looks on brand-new cleats||lonefrontranger|
May 8, 2002 7:21 AM
|One of the reasons I got Speedplays. My left leg is all put on bassackwards and I've some wicked pronation issues. I pulled out of Looks several times, but never the Speedplays. I've also (repeatedly) ripped the bolt housings clear out of Look-mounted shoes due to the pronation and my riding style. The Speedplays take up the slop nicely owing to the free float. It's better than constantly replacing shoes, trust me.
And yes, Speedplay cleats are sensitive to sand, gravel, etc... You really don't want to walk around in them. At all.
I loved the Looks for timetrialing and crashed a couple times in crits from clipping them. I dig the fact I can bottom my shoe with the Speedplays with no ill effects.
So OK, I'm a numbnuts sprinter with bad biomechanics who attacks through corners. I'm also terminally blonde, and my best friend's semi-affectionate nickname for me is "crackbaby" for all the spastic shiat I do. My advice may not be that sound. Everyone's different. YMMV.
May 8, 2002 12:49 PM
|Can you change your handle to 'Crackbaby'? I'd really like that.|
|considered it however||lonefrontranger|
May 8, 2002 1:10 PM
|I'm flamebait enough on my own recognizance. besides that handle may be a tad too un-PC for the gregg quotient, it's not like we're on rec.bicycles.flamers (err, that'd be racing)|
|re: crashing with speedplay||LC|
May 3, 2002 6:22 PM
|I came upon a lady who had fell over somehow on the side of the road and could not get out of the speedplays. I had to remove her shoe to get her unstuck. I always wondered how long she would have had to struggle if I had not come along?|
|Pulling out of Speedplay||peloton|
May 11, 2002 7:55 AM
|I've used Shimanos, Looks, and Speedplays over the past few years (thousands of miles on each system). I really wanted to like the Speedplays. The system felt tight with no slop through the pedal stroke, and they were nice and light. They did sometimes feel a little 'hot' under the foot during long rides or hard efforts, even with a carbon sole shoe. That was tolerable though, although I find the Shimanos and Looks more comfortable there. My biggest problem with the Speedplays was pulling out. This would generally happen to me during hard cornering with my inside pedal. Really scary at time trial speed when diving into a corner. Cleats were set up all right, new, and clean. I had no real explaination to why this would happen. I almost went right off the road the last time I pulled out around a corner. They did it to me in three ITT's one year, all in corners. I sold them for that reason. I've never had a problem pulling out of Looks (knock on
wood). I also find the Looks more a more comfortable platform under the foot, and less prone to contaimination from dirt or sand. They work for me anyway.