|Lance to Robaix after tour career?||Bil Bikie|
Apr 28, 2002 2:42 PM
|When will Lance do the cobbles? I'm thinking he'll do the cobbles after his climbing legs go and just ride classics like Museeuw and Kelly. He needs to ride Paris Robaix to be classified a complete rider. Right now I'd have rank Sean Kelly over Armstrong...but there's still time.
|Lance will never Roubaix after tour career?||allervite|
Apr 29, 2002 10:35 AM
|I expect he will loose a Tour, then come back for one more year. He will continue to do the Classics he enjoys, Tour of Flanders, LBL, Amstel, but I don't think you will ever see him do Roubaix.
Why do you rank Kelly over Armstrong? Kelly is definately king of the Classics, but does not amtch Lance's Tour accomplishments. Lance showed himself both as a one day rider and a Tour rider.
Do you rank Kelly over Indurain?
|Lance will never Roubaix after tour career?||Bil Bikie|
Apr 30, 2002 3:32 PM
|Kelly raced for a long time and did well to retirement. He won the Tours of Switzerland and Spain, and multiple points jerseys in the TDF The best tour rider never to win it. Always in the first group. He was a tour rider, sprinter, above average climber, and classics king like Museeuw. Kelly was competitive the full season. Also more wins, more UCI points, and higher lifetime ranking. Indurain would be in my top 15, but not ahead of Kelly. Jaques Anquiteal (spelling?) also would be rated higher than Indurain.|
|Anquetil, I would agree with.||allervite|
May 1, 2002 8:18 AM
|Kelly I am not so sure. However, I would not insist that Indurain was a better historical cyclist. Miguel did win 5 Tours though and that is defiantely something. As far as Lance, that chapter is not yet finished.
You have to admit, it was a little easier in Kelly's day to win more races as there were fewer riders who were competitive and you did not have riders like Lance focusing the whole season on one race.
I am not so sure about calling Kelly the best "Tour" rider never to win the "Tour". What about Poulidor, or Rominger, even perhaps Zulle. These are great Tour riders who I think had a better chance of winning the Tour than a hard man/Sprinter like Kelly.
If you go by UCI points or number of wins, Kelly takes Indurain. But the Tour is the biggest most important race of the calendar. The fact that Kelly tried os hard to win it says something. I think it carries more weight than you give it.
|Anquetil, I would agree with.||Bil Bikie|
May 2, 2002 5:57 PM
|Yes...I forgot about Poulidor. Wasn't he the eternal second
place rider? I think that Kelly had more higher placings than Rominger in the Tour. Anyway it's fun to debate it.
May 3, 2002 10:05 AM
|Kelly is one of the riders I most admire. He was a bit of an outsider, but did not let anything (The Tour) or anyone intimidate him. His Mentor Maertens was a hell of a rider also.|
May 4, 2002 9:46 AM
Yup...Kelly is my all-time top rider. A Gentleman, always in shape, excelled in all types of races. Also Hinault...he road them all including Paris Robaix...and winning twice?
|only once for Hinault..||Tom C|
May 6, 2002 7:39 PM
|and then he never did it again.|| |