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Need Training Advice...JerryRacer
Apr 3, 2002 6:35 AM
I'm getting back into racing after nearly 3 years away. I'm a 41 year old Cat II who had a lot of success in Masters racing and Cat I, II, III racing in my mid and late 30's, including 2 state road race championship medals in the 30+ and 35+ Masters. My question is: how do I bring myself back to race condition? I didnt totally become a couch potato and still rode and even did a couple of triathlons last summer, so I'm still in pretty good shape. Although, I am about 15 pounds over what I weighed the last full year I raced. I'll take any advice and Thanks!
re: Need Training Advice...brider
Apr 3, 2002 7:05 AM
I'd say, beyond building your base miles up, get into some group rides and see where your particular deficiencies are. You will probably still be strong in a couple areas, but weak in a couple others. Find out what those are so you can work on the weak areas.
agree, and take it slowTig
Apr 4, 2002 4:37 PM
I'm in a similar boat (was never as good as you though) after taking 10 years off from racing. I started riding again a year ago and am building a solid base nice and slow. I'm sure you already know that as we get older, our bodies don't gain fitness and recover as fast as they did just a few short years ago. I love the phrase, "my mind is making promises my body can't keep"! It is easy to know exactly what we need to do automatically, but our fitness isn't quite there yet.

My anaerobic strength is still too weak to attack hills or survive a super fast breakaway for long. It's hard to build that kind of strength this time of year, but some hill sprints will help somewhat. My goal is to be in great shape for NEXT year's season, using this year to gain fitness and guage weaknesses. To rush would be a mistake in my case.
re: Need Training Advice...check bicyclecoach.com!bicyclecoach_com
Apr 3, 2002 2:04 PM
I would consider hiring a cycling coach (although I am a bit biased, since I am a coach). A coach can carefully walk you through your particular circumstances, so that you don't waste your time doing less than the best training. A fantastic new resource to help find a coach is bicyclecoach.com! (Again, I'm a bit biased, since I run the site.)

bicyclecoach.com lists information about approx. 200 coaches that hold coaching licenses from USA Cycling, and around 50 of those coaches have posted detailed profiles on the site!! There are also lots of tips--which you might find valuable.

If you want some very general advise (again--a coach would be much, much more effective), your strength/power at high intensities is probably down from your prior peak form. Some regular, structured sprinting and speed work would probably be helpful, but as someone else mentioned, you base must first be in order.
Sounds like a post for Shirt.allervite
Apr 3, 2002 3:03 PM
Old fast guy relies of residual speed to whoop on us true amateurs. I bet you got a high zoot 16 lb. bike too.
Sounds like a post for Shirt.shirt
Apr 3, 2002 3:20 PM
The Ciocc is closer to 15.
Sounds like a post for Shirt.Troyboy
Apr 4, 2002 12:29 PM
You on a Challenger with Zipps? Both my Cioccs are light, but not that light. I've got a QPro that I think is lighter.
Dunno the modelshirt
Apr 4, 2002 1:21 PM
It's made from SC61-10 with custom tubies (Mavic, White Industries), FSA carbon crank, Cane-Creek ti-gutted calipers, ITM's lightest bar/stem, and Record-10 carbon everything else. Also a really light saddle and ti syncros seat post.

And yeah, it's closer to 15 pounds. Got it from some kid in AZ last year for only $2k. :-P

I was actually shocked to see that the Xaeros I got for training added ALMOST A POUND over the boring tubulars. Amazing.
Forgot I had this:shirt
Apr 4, 2002 1:26 PM
(taken by the guy I bought it from). Do you know the model?
NiceTroyboy
Apr 4, 2002 2:50 PM
The model is the SC 61.10. The Challenger is 61.10 tubing with carbon stays. Enjoy the ride!
My climbing legs are complaining already. . .allervite
Apr 4, 2002 1:48 PM
We want a lighter bike! Shirt has one! Why don't we!
Hey, you've seen my trainer...shirt
Apr 4, 2002 5:11 PM
Mid-80s 25 lb. Davidson. And boy, is it comfortable. :-)
Yea, but which bike will you show up onallervite
Apr 5, 2002 8:16 AM
come Wed. Night? First ride is after the time change! Time for some serious speed endurance training.
quick answer...go ride your bike! it'll all come back to you!(nmerckx56
Apr 3, 2002 6:32 PM
everyone knowsWoof the dog
Apr 4, 2002 8:58 PM
its the bike and not the rider. The lighter the bike the faster you will be, the more aerodynamic, the faster you will be again! Hell, give me a 6 pound bike and I will beat Armstrong up any hillclimb! I knew those 180 gram tubular rims where good for something.

Come on now, get your facts straight!

Woof, the dog that likes to eat paperclips.