|Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||Big C|
Mar 19, 2002 11:23 AM
I am interested in your feedback regarding taking supplements and/or vitamins. I am talking about the basic ones (Endurox, E-Caps, Etc.)
The reason I ask is because I have read a lot on this - some advocates some not, but for the most part it seems like the consensus is in favor especially for endurance athletes. It also makes sense that you simply can't get all the required vitamins and minerals from food alone-right?
I also get a little freaked putting stuff into my body that I am pretty confident in, but not being a science major and not have that background, it's really easy to get the wrong products. i mean there is a huge market out there that vendors claim their product is the cure all.
All input is welcome!
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||brider|
Mar 19, 2002 1:38 PM
|A good multi should cover the bases for you. Unless you're already at your limit as far as training goes, don't worry about the others that are supposed to boost performance.|
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||Big C|
Mar 19, 2002 2:37 PM
|any suggestions would be helpful.
specifically, should i do a centrum or Premium Insurance Caps (E-Caps), or something else...
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||brider|
Mar 20, 2002 7:16 AM
|I take a boat load of NutriLite brand supps. Basically what I look for is dissolvability. I used to take Centrums years ago, but when I had an x-ray done about 3 hours after taking them, and they appeared intact in the x-ray, I started looking elsewhere. Bowl-ringers, they're called (because they tend to pass through the digestive system without breaiking down. Plant-based helps also.|
|Not really needed||Kerry|
Mar 19, 2002 6:21 PM
|Contrary to your conclusion, it does NOT make "sense that you simply can't get all the required vitamins and minerals from food alone." Food is what the body is used to getting all it's nutrients from. A typical endurance athlete is consuming lots of calories in a day, so simply following a balanced diet almost insures getting proper nutrition. Eat a variety of foods, keep lots of colors on your plate, avoid processed foods, eat low fat protein (0.6-1 gm per lb of body weight per day) - all the stuff you've heard forever.
Regards your comment that "there is a huge market out there that vendors claim their product is the cure all", I will (sort of) quote H.L. Menken. "No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer." You're looking for a miracle, and there isn't one there.
|problem is that not many of us eat that perfectly (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Mar 20, 2002 1:17 PM
|You don't need to eat "perfectly"||Kerry|
Mar 20, 2002 6:13 PM
|Just reasonably. The key point here is that athletes are taking in a lot more calories, therefore are going to get a lot more nutrients without even trying. Unless you are on the "waffels and bacon diet" you should have no problem getting proper nutrition by simply going for variety, laying off the fat, etc.|
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||jcheyney|
Mar 19, 2002 6:37 PM
|I've tried to do some research on my own and have yet to find significant, scientific evidence that supplements are helpful. I have found a lot of anecodotal claim and sales hype. The very best I could find is some preliminary data that glucosamine-chondroitin has been shown to relieve pain in people who complain of preexisting pain from arthritic knees. I should say that I am a Registered Nurse and have a different definition of "scientific" evidence that many. I am, like you, somewhat confused and am actually talking with a Registered Dietician that has a background in exercise physiology.
With that being said I take a basic multivitamin (generic Centrum substitute). Years ago I use to have problems with mouth sores that someone said was caused by a Vitamin B deficiency. They went away, so I have stayed on the vitamins. Yes I know that is the worst kind of anecdotal evidence, but it is hard to argue with success.
|re: Glucosamine - chondroitin||brider|
Mar 20, 2002 7:12 AM
|It's my understanding that Chondroitin isn't utilized by the body for two reasons: (1) it doesn't survive the digestive process well, and (2) the molecule size is incompatible with absorption. While chondroitin is similar to glucosamine in structure, it really has no value as an oral agent. Also, there are two forms of glucosamine out there -- sulfate and hydrochloride. Neither is really more effective than the other, so don't let a salesperson try to convince you otherwise. I've seen a glucosamine supp that combines it with Boswelia (NutriLite brand), the boswelia being an anti-inflammatory agent. Might be worth looking at.|
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||SteveO|
Mar 20, 2002 7:15 AM
|I was never much on vitamins/supplements.. but this fall, due non-sports related health conditions, i started taking LOTS of vitamins; antioxidents, zinc, pot, etc.
I found that the supplements GREATLY reduced my recovery time and increased my endurance (was training for a november marathon). I observed no apparent increase in speed or power, but i wasnt training for that.
I also found, for the first time in my LIFE, i didnt have the flu and/or strepthroat for the entire winter.
No experience with endorox, etc.
Mar 20, 2002 1:19 PM
|do you mean potassium or are you preaching the wonders of smoking the herb! (Just kiddin ya here!)|
|lol. sorry, meant potassium.||SteveO|
Mar 21, 2002 7:43 AM
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||krishna|
Mar 20, 2002 5:34 PM
|I've been extremely skeptical of the supplement craze but near the end of last season I finally took bait and started taking a multi-vitamin. What made me succomb was the sheer number of articles hammering essentially the same point -- that endurance athletes are at a higher risk for free radical production due to pollution & increased O2 intake.
I justify it by patting myself on the back for not being one of the million "sedentary" folks who are taking it for a miracle cure. Not very scientific but...
Anyway, I take "One Daily" by Megafoods because it's 100% foodbased. Apparently non-food based supplements just end up being excreted by the body b/c they are unable to be absorbed. I've also started taking an anti-oxident cocktail (Rainbow Light) as added insurance during the season. I plan to stop at end of season & resume again a bit before start of next.
|re: Supplements - Multivitamins feedback||RayBan|
Mar 23, 2002 6:13 AM
|I really think if your diet is well balanced, and you are well hydrated your set. The problem is I don't know anyone who LIVES by the guidelines outlined by the FDA(food pyramid etc). So multivitamins help make up for the deficiencies. I've used Endurox in the past and that seems to work well. Once again its probably because my diet isn't perfect. So YES I believe somer suplementation will help. Your not going to improve your time trial by 10 minutes or suddenly drop everyone you ride with but they will aid you long term.|| |