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Racing wheels2009_TDF_Winner
Feb 21, 2002 11:11 PM
I have been looking at reviews on racing wheelsets have yet to find one that suits my preference. The HeD H3 and HeD Alps look very nice but i have not found any reviews on them. I am looking for aero wheels that are still relatively lightweight, something that is tubular compatible and, um, sorry but no campy. I am a junior racer stuck with Mavic CXP 21 rims on sora hubs with cheep Michelin tires. Now read this allover again except always have it in your mind that price is not going to be a factor. (It is now, but it wont be.......) (Also, maybe if you could just give me a review on those HeD wheelsets i listed, it would be great..........)
re: Racing wheelsWayne
Feb 22, 2002 6:05 AM
If you really want aero (and light) and money is no concern I think the Zipp 404's are the way to go and probably strong also since people use them for cross with a slightly higher spoke count.
re: Racing wheelsCARBON110
Feb 22, 2002 6:48 AM
I just got zipp 303s......and they are awesome! Highly recommend them over HEDS anyday. Less weight and more stiff.
re: Racing wheelsWayne
Feb 22, 2002 7:03 AM
Probably can't go wrong with either set of Zipps but from what I read I think I would choose the 404's because aero seems to be more significant than light under almost every circumstance. I think the Zipp 404s are about 100 grams heavier than the 303's but the extra rim depth adds quite abit of aero advantage. The 303's are at the low end of the rim depth that provides a significant aero advantage. How do you find the aero feel of the 303's? Does it feel significant to you?
zipp 303'sMagliarosa
Feb 22, 2002 3:36 PM
Unless you're planning on breaking away all the time or doing a bunch of time trials with these wheels, aerodynamics isn't going to be too significant. In a race you're usually in a pack and unless you're pulling at the front you're drafting, and all aero wheel advantages seem to be pretty much nullified, imho. I think lightweight would be much better for pack racing but it's your call. In that case, I'd definitely go with the zipp 303's. I just got a pair and they are absolutely phenomenal compared to my mavic cosmos. Acceleration seems so much faster and holding higher speeds felt easier. Climbing is a blast. I never thought I'd be able to tell that much of a difference but I can. The new prices for this year are pretty high but you said that didn't matter so there you go. I got mine off ebay.
re: Racing wheelsgonzo77
Feb 22, 2002 7:03 PM
If you can afford the Zipp's, go with those. Going tubular is the way to go too. Sure it's not as convinient as Clinchers, but 170 psi sure does roll SWEET compared to 120 psi clinchers. The 404's are a tad heavier, but unless u're a pro and need the absolute lightest thing...a la Lance... You wont notice the difference. My latest talk with the Zipp rep he told me the 404's are a bit stiffer than 303's due to naturally due to the deeper dish of the wheel. That other guy's right, in a pack, you lose the aerodynamics, but still have very light and stiff wheels. IF you do manage to break away you have the aerodynamics to boot. I've had em for about a year and use em mostly for crit racing and they're great. And they're tough. No joking when I say I've only trued the front wheel once and only cause I'm picky, not because it really needed it. They're a bit more expensive this year because every part of the wheel is made in the good 'ol USA. Overall they're definitely a good choice.
re: Racing wheelsCARBON110
Feb 23, 2002 7:05 AM
I chose the 303s over the 404s since I can use a common 60mm valve and no attachment is necessary. I put verdistein tires on them and pump them up to 140psi and they Fly like the wind. I weigh 128lbs so light weight wheels make a real difference for me. The 404s are for TTs. Although they are more stiff and less heavy then ksyriums or something, any cross winds in those and you will feel it big time. I like the depth of the 303s since anything over 50mm you need a valve extension or an expensive unusual 80mm tube.Thats what makes them perfect, stiff light aero and deep but not too deep.