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How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?(14 posts)

How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?DY
Feb 3, 2002 10:07 AM
Glad that my first race is behind me.....I don't know if this race was the best for my first, but it was great to be involved and get a chance to see how things work. There were lots of people from all over California it seemed. I don't know about you guys, but I thought that after turning right on La Posta....things got pretty hard....I can't believe how fast some of the guys flew uphill. It just shows me I have LOTS of room left for improvement. I think I'm gonna start training once a week with some of the clubs up here where I live (North County like - the B&L guys or the Swamis' guys). Any other good groups to get race experience with? Thanks.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?Bruno S
Feb 3, 2002 3:50 PM
I had a similar experience. It was my first road race. First thing that caught my attention was that almost everybody uses trainers to warm up before the race. Then I was surprised about the amount of racers that showed up and that things were very well set-up although it took some time to register and there was no real benefit to have pre-registration. For me it would have been very good to ride the course at least once. Sometimes what looks like flat isn't. I was also expecting cat 5 to be more novice. Most of them had very good equipment and belonged to a team. In La Posta is when things started to get interesting. I started to see my heart rate climb close to my max while trying to keep up with the front group and I couldn't hang for long. From there on I did my own race at a pace I knew I could maintain until the end. I usually ride on Saturdays with SDBC and can keep up with the group but this was different. First in a road race there are no interruptions like traffic light and no regrouping point. You can always recover, drink and eat during at those stops even if they are short. I almost choked during the race while eating and grasping for air at the same time. The cold and the wind made it hard too. During the climb to the finish line there was a strong head wind especially in the second lap. As a first race it was good because it was safe (almost no sharp turns) but it was bad because it was hard (wind, cold, hills). It was a good experience and excellent workout but I expected to do much better. For sure I need to train harder.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?DY
Feb 3, 2002 6:19 PM
Yes...I second that. Even though it was my first race, I've been riding for a while and have been able to do well on rides up and down the coast, out to Escondido or out to Poway. I was really impressed or shocked at the level of the Cat 5 racers there. They seemed really good. I too thought it would be more of a beginner level. Yes no time to really even get a drink or catch your breath....they just took off fast and kept going. I was thinking about looking into meeting with the SDBC too on one of their rides. Sat. at Trophys right? Well there are more races to come this year. Do you know which one you'll do next?
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?Bruno S
Feb 3, 2002 7:54 PM
I'll probably do the Tour de Kids road race put by SDSU. Same place (Campo) and time as Boulevard but different route. After that Redlands seems a good option because I would also like to see the big teams. You should come by to the SDBC Saturday ride, 8:30am behind Trophys. SDBC also puts a club race each month for members. Its during the week and I think they start in March. Its a cheap way to gain experience.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?hrv
Feb 4, 2002 8:44 AM
Thanks for the great insights. I'll be doing my first race in a month and you've given me some insider tips that will help.

Also, everyone I ask has given me the advice to stay as much in the front group as possible, thereby having more options for wheels to hang on to and less chances of getting caught up in crashes. Did you people try to do this too and if so were you successful?

Thanks,
hrv
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?Bruno
Feb 4, 2002 10:58 AM
Its not so easy to be at the front. Besides the obvious reason that you need to be strong, the group at the front is tighter. Riders are constantly changing positions and to keep at the front you have to be moving up constantly. The back is the worst place to be not only you can get dropped easier but also at any given moment the group can split and then you will need to bridge.

Was I succesful? In short, no. During the hills I was just trying to keep with the group.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?mixinbeatz
Feb 4, 2002 11:25 AM
It seems like you guys were kind of shocked by the speeds of the 5's which I agree. Out of curiousity, what kind of weekly training plans have you been doing in preparation? ie hours, intervals, total weekly miles.....
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?DY
Feb 4, 2002 1:43 PM
I guess since I had no race experience, I did naively think that the 5's would be more full of beginners like me. Still it was a great experience.

For the last few months here's what I have been doing. I know I need to do more or maybe do it a little smarter. I've just been listening to my body and trying to take it slow and not burn myself out or hurt myself. I still have a the whole Spring and Summer left. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

SUN-off or just fun ride with my girlfriend.
MON-20 miles medium to hard intensity (rolling terrain, attacking each hill).
TUE-spin on trainer 30-45 minutes. spin at about 85-90, then sprint up to 110-115 every 8 mins for about 2 mins. Heart rate about 130-140.
WED-same as Monday.
THUR-same as Tuesday.
FRI-off
SAT-long hilly ride 50-75 miles, medium intensity.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?mixinbeatz
Feb 4, 2002 2:12 PM
taking it slow is the best plan... one thing that I have been doing, that has been extremely helpful, 1-2 a week spinning on the trainer at 50-65 rpms in a 52-12 or 11 for a total of 30 mins (20 min warmup, 10 mins 52-12, easy spin for 10 minutes x3) . My trainer has a ton of resistance so this workout has been great for building leg strength to bridge gaps, and make people suffer on the flats. If you have bum knees, do not do this. My knees are fine and this has been really helpful in developing strength. Also do isolated leg exersises at higher rpms.... I am a relative newbe as well and these exercises have made a huge difference. As it gets closer to the season, you may want to get your heartrate up a bit higher doing intervals on the trainer as well. This will help you hang on to the pack when the going gets tuff.
my 2 bits... good luck and have fun...
Agree with Mixallervite
Feb 5, 2002 11:12 AM
Throw out one of those hilly rides and substitute some long (10 - 15 min.) strength intervals. If you can maintain a cadence of more than 70 rpms for the whole interval then they are not hard enough. I do mine on a hill. I start out at 90 rpms and finish barely able to hold 60 rpms.

After 3 weeks, you will be pleasantly surprised with the results.
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?Bruno
Feb 4, 2002 3:32 PM
Preparation. What a concept. I have been trying to follow a training plan with periodization. That means I have been doing weight training and long slow rides since November and seldom venturing into high heart rates. Everything seemed according to plan until about two weeks ago. The first race was approaching and suddenly everybody was flying at the Saturday ride. I haven't started interval training but nobody else should have either!
Stay to the plan. Your time will come, and there's will passallervite
Feb 5, 2002 11:15 AM
However, it would not hurt to start doing some strength intervals once a week. See post above for details.
The best training for racing IS racingTig
Feb 4, 2002 12:27 PM
I can't remember who said that quote, but it has truth. You learn so much each time you race. You learn HOW to race (keeping a wheel, tactics, survival, etc.). You learn about your body and what you need to train on to do better next time. The next race will have several lessons to build upon as well. Early races are about survival. You have to be ready for anything to happen while keeping yourself as relaxed as possible... not something you pick up quickly.

If you didn't do as well as you wanted, don't worry. The season is early yet. If the other racers appear to be so much stronger, don't be surprised. Some are experienced triathletes or people who have ridden with fast groups for several years. Some are old farts like me who have all the skills and tactics still in their heads, but are having a tough time getting their bodies to go as strong as the old days!
re: How did everyone do at Boulevard yesterday?thenewguy11
Feb 14, 2002 2:53 PM
Best ride in San Diego is the Wednesday ride that leaves from a bike shop just north of Solana Beach and goes up through Camp Pendleton and back. When I was at school, I did it as often as possible and I don't think there's a better way to get fast. On good days, you'll find a hundred riders and most of them are very serious and/or pros or triathletes. Why else would they be riding on a Wednesday morning? Not only will it make you fast, but you get great experience riding in a pack and a sense of tactics because when things heat up, doing stupid things gets you shelled very rapidly (first hand experience).

The Swami's ride is also good on Saturdays.