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poping my racing cherry (first timer)(16 posts)

poping my racing cherry (first timer)Sirclimbalot
Jan 28, 2002 6:14 PM
I want to get in to racing but don't really know how to. I was wondering what a normal race day looked like. And how good are most Cat 5 riders? I can keep a good 20 mph on flats for about 30 miles or so and can sprint up to 30mph... is that good enough to not place last? Thanks
re: poping MY racing cherry (first timer)weiwentg
Jan 28, 2002 7:29 PM
well ... you'd place near me, that's for sure... I'm a first time racer, too. good luck!!!!!
re: poping my racing cherry (first timer)flyinbowlofmilk
Jan 28, 2002 8:13 PM
I think it would be very good. I think that you would finish in the pack ,or maybeeven the top 10. That considering that I can do the get up to 23mph with a group but avg17.6mph. But I am like you. So I will wish you good luck.
Does "poping" your cherryshirt
Jan 28, 2002 9:06 PM
mean regaining lost virginity through Catholic conversion?
re: poping my racing cherry (first timer)Zipper
Jan 29, 2002 6:32 AM
Without trying to discourage you, one thing beginners often don’t realize is that racing is not about keeping an average speed over given distance. Rather, success is achieved by being able to attack and respond to counter-attacks. Being able to grab a wheel when a few guys try to spring from the field. Unless you have the ability to make repeated jumps and recover, predicting your success based on average speeds is a sure way to let yourself down. My advice is to enter into a race so you start climbing up the learning curve all the sooner. Forget about average speeds. Most importantly, have loads of fun and enjoy the experience.
re: poping my racing cherry (first timer)mixinbeatz
Jan 29, 2002 11:25 AM
I agree totally. TT or average speed over a distance is rather slow for me. Although I can hang in a group and sprint well. Learn the tactics while building fitness and you will find your specialty. Join a club... you may get dropped for a while, but before you know it you will be hanging in and even attacking.
good luck and have fun.
re: poping my racing cherry (first timer)brider
Jan 29, 2002 11:54 AM
Strength-wise, you're right in there, but as was already suggested, it's not all about average speed. Ever watch the international track races (runnning)? The distance type races where there's a title or medal on the line are usually slower than anything approaching record pace because it's a tactical race. Bike racing is the same. Learn to recover from hard efforts, learn pack riding skills, and watch what's going on around you. Racing success is more about the head than the legs.
My only advice...tuffnick
Jan 29, 2002 12:08 PM
My only advice and this comes from being a beginner like everyone else at one point in time... as hard as it is... be patient... draft draft draft and for the life of you don't take a pull unless you have to. A lot of people will get upset at me for saying that but racing is all about who has the best strategy to make it across the line first and by minimizing the time you pull you reduce the ammount of energy you expend especially since pulling can make you completely blow up and get spit out the back pretty damn fast. I've learned from experience many a time. If you want to make a break I don't recommend doing it till after 2/3 of the race is gone... also let others counter attacks by other riders so don't get nervous when someone launches off the front. The group mentality of cat 4 and 5 in my experience tends to keep the pack together.
I respectfully disagreeshirt
Jan 29, 2002 1:03 PM
My feeling is that for a first-time, first-year racer, working on a strategy for placing the highest you possibly can (sitting in, not attacking, etc) is misguided. Being involved in the drama of the race, learning what it feels like to be off the front, chasing down primes, is what keeps a lot of us (even when we're ancient) coming back for more. I agree that he should be patient, but I've seen a lot of people start out being conservative, and retire that way.

As a beginner matures, he'll find out where and when good places to attack are. The only way you figure this out is to attack a lot when you're learning. This also does wonders for your confidence and testicular circumference.

Remember what Hinault said...

what DID Hinault say?? nmweiwentg
Jan 29, 2002 4:39 PM
"As long as I breath, I attack!" (nm)shirt
Jan 29, 2002 5:01 PM
Good advice to follow, assuming I don't run out of breath. (nm)weiwentg
Jan 30, 2002 5:04 AM
I thought he said, "Damn it Lemond! Get back here!" :-)allervite
Feb 7, 2002 6:35 PM
Jan 30, 2002 1:24 PM
I agree with this for the lower categories for all the reasons you state. Very rarely do team tactics work (if they're even practiced) in 4/5 races. Most early breaks are doomed in these races. It's rare that someone in the lower categories will stick a break from way out. I learned this lesson the hard way. Fortunately I learned it early.
Thank YouSirclimbalot
Jan 29, 2002 7:55 PM
The best thing about cycling is not just the cycling but it's also the cycling comunity. Thanks for all of your responces and keep them coming!!
re: poping my racing cherry (first timer)xx
Jan 31, 2002 10:12 AM
When I began racing a Cat 2 gave me the best advice: Work HARD to stay up front, not in front, but up front. This is especially true for a Cat 5 (Cat 4 when I started racing). The field gets squirrely and you want to avoid pack crashes. Bust your butt in the beginning of the race to be in the top 10 - 15 racers. The pace will steady and then the attacks will come. Have fun with it and if you feel good, do a couple attacks yourself. It's your first race, have a blast. Most importantly, stay as far up front as you can without leading the pack and STAY VERTICAL.