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Newbie Questions?flyinbowlofmilk
Dec 18, 2001 8:14 PM
Hi It the fool newbie again. I was riding with the LBS group ride this past weekend. I was riding on my Raleigh R500 road bike. We left from the ususal place and proceeded to head out of the city. As we proceeded out of the city,I saw some people surging up to the front group. So as a newbie I thought it was just temporary ,but to my avail it happen often during the ride. I proceeded to learn how to draft behind a person while ride. So here are the questions. What was happening when 1or2 or more riders surge or moved from the slower group to the faster group?. And how do you hold a line when you riding in a group or pack ride? And if feel a surge like this how should I prcoeed? The speed of the slower group was 14-16mph and the speed of the faster group was 17+mph. Newbie need advice,please.
re: Newbie Questions?allervite
Dec 18, 2001 8:46 PM
I don't really understand what was happening. Did you start out in a big group that kept getting smaller as riders surged away, or did the same group split and then come back together and split again?

Holding your line in a group means that you don't make any sudden movements from side to side or forward and backward. That does not mean you cannot go around slower riders or speed up, you are just required to do these things gradually and in a predictable manner.

As for responding to surges, if you are worried about them and you want to surge also, then stay near the front of the slow group. When you see riders surging, you can follow them. If there is only a few of you, you may have to take a turn at the front as you chase the front group. Do not take too long of a pull, do not slow down during your pull and do not speed up during your pull. The idea is to be smooth. A lot of new riders think they will show how tough they are by taking a reall long pull, but once the speed drops 2 or three miles an hour, the other riders get mad.
re: Newbie Questions?flyinbowlofmilk
Dec 19, 2001 11:58 AM
I started out in a big group. The split and came back together and then splited again. The big group split off into a faster group and a slower group. But as the groups split away from each other I saw some rider coming out of the slower group and moving up to the faster group ,and then coming back together again
Dec 19, 2001 12:23 PM
With the average speeds you gave, I doubt there was any real attacking, surging going on. Probably just such a big group it is hard to stay together. I would not worry about it. Concentrate on getting comfortable in the group and putting in some miles.
Some answersallervite
Dec 19, 2001 12:40 PM
As spring approaches and the group gets faster, there are a few things to keep in mind.

Make sure you know the route of the ride.
It's easy to get lost when you are concentrating on not getting dropped.

As the group starts it's ride Get near the front.
It will be much easier on you when the speed jumps. As the group goes over a hill or around a corner, each rider slows down a little for the corner/hill and then speeds back up as they get through the corner/hill. If you are at the back you are going to be going much slower as you approach the corner/hill than the guys who are past the corner/hill. By the time you exit the corner, they will be a long way ahead of you and you are going to have to put in a lot of effort to catch up.

Watch your line. No swerving or sudden breaking.

If you are in a paceline, do not stand up. As you stand, your bike shoots back a little and you may cause the guy behind you to crash.

If the speed is killing you and it's your turn to take a pull, Don't. If anyone gives you any crap, tell them that you are having trouble with the speed. They will understand, and will be happier that you did not upset the rhythm of the paceline, then if you would have tried to pull and slowed everyone down.

Do not attack on the downhills. Unless of course you are Sean Yates, you will get caught.

Keep aware of what's going on around you or it will go on top of you. You cannot just worry about what you are doing, you gotta watch out for others as well. Unless you like the taste of asphalt and the sheets sticking to you at night.

There is more, but I'm probably boring people.
Allervite, stop...shirt
Dec 20, 2001 10:09 PM
you're boring me.

What are ya, a bay area unemployee?

Ok (nm)allervite
Dec 21, 2001 9:28 AM