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rollersjust
Dec 18, 2001 3:48 PM
I'm new to racing -- finally bit the bullet and bought rollers. Right now, it requires all of my concentration to stay vertical and I'm still not comfortable starting without a wall. Any tips or tricks? What kinds of workouts should I be doing now and what should I be shooting for as I get more comfortable? I've been doing about an hour, seated, in various gearing -- generally in place of an outdoor easy spin day. Any input would be appreciated.
WorkoutsKerry Irons
Dec 18, 2001 6:09 PM
Rollers are great for any kind of workout except stand up sprints. An excellent place to work on high speed spin sessions, speed intervals, LSD, or anything you want. There's no special kind of roller workout. As with any indoor exercise equipment, just be sure that you have a good fan or two blowing. Otherwise, you're just elevating your pulse to disspate heat (like sitting in a sauna) rather than actually exercising.
re: rollersallervite
Dec 18, 2001 9:00 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't get too crazy on those rollers yet. There is nothing like sitting in the garage, doing a killer speed interval session, getting a little tired, bobbling a little, your bike jumps the rollers and you slam into the garage wall at 20 mph before you even know what is happening. The worst part is you will have to lie about a bad curve on a dangerous downhill to all your riding buddies when they ask you how you broke your collar bone.
I'm Serious!
20 mph into a wall? No way.jacques
Dec 19, 2001 11:16 AM
No matter how fast you pedal on rollers, you're never going more than zero mph relative to the ground. There is absolutely no forward momentum. The stories about coming off the rollers and zooming into a wall (glass patio door, swimming pool, down the stairs, etc.) are hogwash. It can't happen.

However, there IS the real possibility of toppling off the rollers to your left or right. Make sure there's nothing dangerous near the left and right side of your rollers. In that sense, the poster's advice to not get too crazy on the rollers yet is right on.
Sorryallervite
Dec 19, 2001 2:33 PM
Just trying to be humorous. Hope I have not ruined anyones careers.
ruined careersjacques
Dec 19, 2001 6:27 PM
Allervite, no ruined careers because roller races are a thing of the past. They were big in Europe in the 1950's. Cold Belgian Saturday night in December: two guys on the theater stage, on rollers. Behind them, huge dials showing distance ridden. Coaches kneeling in front of them. Whoever rode the most kilometer within a specific time won.

The audience was usually very drunk on beer, very loud and extemely nasty, but they knew cycling. They looked for souplesse and elegance. Whoever pedaled with his knees more than one centimeter from the top tube was booed.

Oh well, another geezer story from the glory days of cycling . . .
Impressedallervite
Dec 19, 2001 10:22 PM
You really know your bike racing. I am impressed. You even used the word "Souplesse". Are you an American?

Can you tell me who the first World Cycling Champion was? Here's a couple of hints. Think track, and don't think european.

If you don't answer me I am going to think you a fraud and start posting horror stories of riders who have endoed on their wind trainers.

If you answer me, you have my respect. If you correctly answer me, I am going to ask you who the second World Cycling Champ was.
Impressedjacques
Dec 20, 2001 6:12 AM
Ha ha I don't want to thought of as a fraud so I'll take a stab at your question - Major Taylor?

I was born in Berlin, Germany but became an American citizen on October 10, 1964.
Closeallervite
Dec 20, 2001 11:24 AM
I knew you were no american! Few know who Major Taylor is. It's the tour or nothing over here for most of us Yanks.

Taylor was the second world champion. The first was Major's Mentor --August Zimmerman, a German American I believe.

You are truly a Connoisseur. Did you ever go see any Six Days?
Closejacques
Dec 21, 2001 8:46 AM
My father took me to two or three six days in the Berlin "Sportpalast." The cigarette smoke and beer fumes were stifling. Every evening, the first number the band played was the "Sportpalastwaltz" and a humpback on crutches would piercingly whistle three recurring notes with his fingers stuck in his mouth. He was famous in Berlin - everyone called him "Krücke", which means "crutch."

By the way, it was in the Sportpalast that A. Hitler gave his Berlin speeches. Another velodrome figures in that dark age - the Velodrome d'Hiver in Paris. It served as a holding area for people scheduled to be deported to the Nazi camps.

This is my last year racing. Us 60-plus guys get stuck into the 50-plus packs, and that 10-year difference makes me come off the back more than I like.
I AM IMPRESSED BY YOU GUYS!!Jon
Dec 21, 2001 9:48 AM
Though I am no connoisseur, I would have guessed Major Taylor. Saw by accident a tv feature on
contributions of black cyclists. Following informed discussion is a pleasure!
August, NINE!21 year old punk kid
Dec 22, 2001 4:53 PM
no no no Arthur Zimmerman was the name, He was 2nd or third generation american.
Taylor may lay claim to being the second ever black world champion, after a middle weight boxer
Taylor's mentor is stretching it, Idol may be more correct. Taylor's "mentor" was most defintly Birdie Munger, an ex ordinary racer and propritor of the Munger Cycle company. and if you want to get real real specific the first world championship was actually held By the Leauge of American wheelmen in Boston in 1897, The First UCI worlds wasn't until 1898 in France, and the sprint Champion that year was a flamboyant frenchman named Edmond Jaquelin. Taylor won in 1899, In Montreal. Calling him the sole world champion for 1899 was also rather disrespectful to the 7 or eight other men awarded in other events. There were numerous other world titles handed out that week in August. Including the motorpaced event, won By Irishman Jimmy Micheals, whom Taylor would later go on to defeat in a special paired motorpace event on the boards at the Coney Island track in November of the same year. The first professional raod championship was later in devolping. Road racing was only popular in Italy and Spain at the turn of the century. The first Offical world road championship was held in I beleive 1910 in Italy and the name of the victor escapes me.
August, Yes!allervite
Dec 22, 2001 11:22 PM
You are correct about Zimmerman not really being Taylor's mentor. He was definately his idol, and they were friends. However, the first Professional World Champion's name was August, at least according to the books I have. Perhaps you have him confused with Arthur Spencer.

The first amateur World Championship was held in Chicago 1893. August was the first Pro World Champion.

You were also correct in saying that Taylor was not the sole World Champion in 1899. He lost the half mile sprint in a judges decision, but won both the one and two mile World Championsips. This has gotten incredibly pedantic though so I will let the subject lay.

Sorry "shirt" I could not help myself.
Burning rubber...Trypsin
Dec 29, 2001 8:02 AM
...I once came off my rollers going pretty fast in my old apartment. I didn't go anywhere but the friction put a nice burn mark on my carpet. I didn't get back very much of my security deposit from that old place. Now I use an old carpet under my rollers or find a place with a cement floor.
re: rollersSpox
Dec 19, 2001 1:17 AM
Do some 15 minutes like 4-5 times a week, instead of one hour or so. I think it's too stressing for 'rollers-newbie' to take +-1 hour if you have never dunnit before. Try to focus to relax your upper body; head up; thinking even circles on both legs.

Later, when it gets better, you may do spinning without hands; track stands; take your shirt off or put it on when spinning; lean on the wall when spinning; take bottle from back pocket (both sides) and drink and put it back when spinning; take 2-3 bottles from table spinning without hands and put them on the back pocket; look back when spinning (both sides) aso.

And still they say that rollertime is boring...
re: rollersmikebikr
Jan 17, 2002 6:05 AM
I like doing isolated leg drills also on rollers. You have to be smooth. Then for aditional challenge trying one leg and one hand at a time. I've tried to juggle as well...but I haven't pulled it off...YET.
my favorite workoutishmael
Dec 20, 2001 11:12 AM
i put on the commercial free jazz station and get into a rythem with my fixy for about 2 hours..just having one gear and switching up the rotation speed from 90 rpms to lightspeed is enough for me...i only do it when its dark or wet out, id still rather be outside...lately ive been only breathing out of my nose and spinning so as to keep me from getting out of an aerobic state..i do this on the rollers and outside.
re: rollerst bone
Dec 21, 2001 9:38 PM
Safe way to start out is in a door way(an open one).