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Carmichael Training ProgramThorman
Nov 6, 2001 5:41 PM
I'm thinking about signing up for the four month Perform program at Carmichael Training Systems. Has anyone used this program? If so, did it work for you?
Buy Friel's book and save the money. nm imho.Colombian Climber
Nov 6, 2001 6:36 PM
Buy Friel's book and save the money. nm imho.Thorman
Nov 8, 2001 6:15 PM
I bought the book a few weeks ago and because of a shipping mess up I didn't get it until today. I read the first four chapters tonight and it looks interesting.

A number of riders in my club have talked about this training program. I've heard complaints on this board that it's too complicated. I guess now I can read the book and judge for myself.
Buy Friel's book and save the money. nm imho.Jon
Nov 8, 2001 7:02 PM
It's not that complicated. Just take things one step at a time. Once you understand the concept
it's really "Self-coaching for Dummies." Definitely the best training book on the market.
I'd second that.......Len J
Nov 9, 2001 1:39 PM
and add that the reason (IMO) that people think it is complicated is because it takes some effort to set up a complete integrated training program. However, depending on your needs you can be as structured or as unstructured as you want.

If nothing else it will teach you enough to know when you are screwing up your own training.

I'd second that.......David
Nov 10, 2001 6:10 PM
I've enjoyed Friel's book alot, but it can was a bit hard to put everything together at first. After reading the book and rereading sections I didn't follow, I'm much more comfortable with the ideas.

However, I've only been racing about two months, so I'm not the best judge of my strength and limiters. Time will help there.
re: Carmichael Training ProgramThorman
Nov 14, 2001 9:35 AM
I'm finishing the book right now and it is a little complicated, but I think it's not impossible to follow.

I also looked at the website and for $100/year you can save yourself some time and energy in setting up all the data collection you will be doing.

I think after finishing the book I'm going to sign up and get started at the beginning of December. Thanks for all your input.
re: Carmichael Training ProgramJon
Nov 14, 2001 10:10 AM
You'll find that just following a structured program consistently will really help, whether it's Carmichael's,
Friel's, least I did. I like Joe Friel's first two Commandments of Training: train consistently; train moderately.
Nov 14, 2001 10:18 AM
Thorman, For whatever it's worth, one other personal comment. I found simply doing the exercises necessary
to complete an annual plan with the help of Friel's "Bible" enormously useful. It's very useful to be forced
to define your limiters and get very specific and concrete about your goals. This is what gives meaning
and focus to one's training, as opposed to just riding around, which for me was critical. Good luck. Have
a great year.