|Recovery drinks/mixes and supplements||dude|
Sep 26, 2001 4:47 PM
|Does anyone use recovery supplements or drinks like Endurox? Has anyone used or heard of a drink called Ultima?
Do these products help with recovery after rides and is it beneficial to use them while riding?
I'm looking for something that will actually help my recovery, not some trash to color my water and taste sweet.
Thanks for your help!
Sep 26, 2001 5:34 PM
|These products offer no advantages over food, except perhaps convenience and significant profits to the makers. The best they can do is equal food, since they are made from either natural food sources or from synthetic food mimics. A proper mix of carbohydrate and protein for recovery (low-fat cheese, fruit, whole grains, lean meats, nuts and seeds, etc.) will do every thing that recovery drinks will do. Same for eating while riding. They may offer convenience, but offer no benefits over just eating properly. All of the studies showing how great they are compare them to only water or to some other deficient source, not to eating real food.|
Sep 27, 2001 7:27 AM
|Ed Burke, the formulator of Endurox, pretty much agrees with you, I think.
I like the Endurox simply for the convenience. If you're going to hit your glycogen window after a workout, you have to eat the right thing fast and pounding a drink while you're in the shower is super easy.
I also found that I got sick less when I was using Endurox. This might have been because of the immuno-enhancers in it or it might have been because I was more successful at keeping my weight up last season--probably a combination of both.
In any event, if you've got the $$$, it's worth a try to see if it works for you.
|re: Recovery drinks/mixes and supplements||Ed5|
Sep 26, 2001 8:31 PM
|I ran a marathon last year in which they had Ultima to drink at the drink stations. I liked it. Wasn't as sweet as some of the more popular drinks. Went down smooth and didn't have any bad side affects.|
|re: Recovery drinks/mixes and supplements||Jon|
Sep 27, 2001 8:14 AM
|I completely agree with Kerry. A sugar is a sugar, and an amino acid is an amino acid regardless of the |
packaging. A high glycemic carbohydrate of any name is what you need for recovery. An added note here.
The original research by John Ivy which indicated an optimum ratio of 4:1 CHO/Pro contained an arithmetical
error. The researchers did not take into account the higher caloric content of the CHO/Pro diet. When this
was corrected for by other researchers, the higher calorie CHO diet actually produced a higher rate of
glycogen replacement in the first few hours. But at the end of 24 hrs. total glycogen resynthesis was the
same for both recovery protocols. Subsequent replication of Ivy's research failed to corroborate his original
findings. Now before this starts up any flames, eating a little protein is not a bad idea since hard aerobic
exercise does catabolize some muscle. But the research on which Endurox R4 is marketed is flawed.
Having said that, Endurox is not a bad product, just an extremely expensive replacement for white bread
|re: Recovery drinks/mixes and supplements||AET|
Sep 27, 2001 1:01 PM
|i like the endurox. i can get it down when i am so beat that the idea of eating makes me ill. i think it is good stuff for that reason alone.|
|try slimfast !||quadzilla|
Sep 27, 2001 3:27 PM
|I actually use slimfast after a hard ride...meal replacement made easy. I also have a hard time eating for several hours after a ride, sometimes I can't eat until the next day. I know this is bad, and found the shake to be good, easy & fairly cheap. The endorox worked well also, but I thought the taste was terrible !|
|try slimfast ! I AGREE!||YoungRcR|
Oct 3, 2001 1:28 PM
|Get the chocolate one, put it on ive in a cooler and drink it after a race, next day you will be surprised, they taste great and are loaded with carbs, protein and vitamins!|
|I eat like a wild dog after riding. (NM)||Packrat|
Sep 28, 2001 3:43 PM
|Endurox and Accelerade||Mick|
Sep 28, 2001 4:39 PM
|I use Endurox because I have a hard time hitting the magic window after a ride. From group rides, it takes me 30-45 minutes to get home. So, it's easier to pre-mix a drink and down it on the drive home. That way I know I'm covered.
As a long-time user of plain-old Gatorade as a ride drink, I've recently tried the new Accelerade. Now, I accept that Accelerade is probably more hype than fact but my form has improved since I started using it.
Most likely the improvement was just the result of hard miles but .....