's Forum Archives - Racing

Archive Home >> Racing(1 2 3 )

Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!(9 posts)

Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!vozdemano
Sep 19, 2001 10:30 AM
there is a 50mile race coming up and I have been training about 50 miles a week. I'm not a racer, I'm the lowest form of amature. I just like beating my own time. Last year I did it in 3.5 hrs. The reason for that is "the hills wear me out". What can I do to prepare? how can I climb with less fatigue??
re: Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!Daniel H.
Sep 19, 2001 10:53 AM
Best way to get better at climbing hills is to climb more hills. find a grade that you don't need your smallest cog on, takes between 15 and 30 minutes to climb, and do that hill several times, once way over geared(40 to 55 RPM) and one spinning, (over 80 RPM). Do this workout with a decent 15 min. warmup and 15 min. warmdown. once a week, or twice if you want to be a monster. It will hurt a lot but will make you a better climber.
re: Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!vozdemano
Sep 19, 2001 12:41 PM
Thanks that's really good and honest advice. But what about pedaling off the seat on hills? I know it's better but, I get REALLY!! tired when I sit back on my seat.
50m/week? train more but do it more focused.nestorl
Sep 19, 2001 11:13 AM
Make sure there is a purpose to each ride. To improve your overal fitness, simply increase your Milage and time on the climbs. Spend 2-3 hours/week just on hills. You will learn to love it. :-)
re: Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!bianchi axis
Sep 20, 2001 7:39 AM
Newbie question: no such long hills to be found in my neighborhood, how should I train hills on a trainer? T.I.A.
re: Training More!?!?!---Damn those hills!cyclequip
Sep 21, 2001 4:24 AM
You can't train hills on a trainer. Its one of the fundamental problems with indoor training. Nothing can compare to the exponential effort of pushing your body and bike against gravity. The pedal stroke is vastly different. You also don't need big hills to get stronger uphill. You just need lots of hills to get stronger. Losing weight is also a good way. Riding into strong wind is acceptable if you live on the flats.
Trainer on coffee cansPackrat
Sep 22, 2001 11:28 AM
If you can train for hills on the flats into a headwind then you should be able to train on your trainer with the resistance turned up. but to get your body to adjust to the effect the hill provides elevate the front of the trainer. true, you can not do out of the saddle efforts but is technique what the poster is seeking?

Then again, climbing is all about watts and weight provided you have sufficient gears and concentration.
Trainer on coffee canscyclequip
Sep 28, 2001 5:47 AM
I didn't say you can. I said it's acceptable in the absence of elevation. Climbing is as much about style and technique as it is about watts and weight, gears and concentration. Just go ask Lance.
I repeat - you can't learn to climb on a trainer.
Not enough trainingbear
Sep 29, 2001 4:16 PM
you say you train 50 miles a week to race a 50 mile race,,,
NOT enough miles and training. you really need more training hours and at least a century under you belt for endurance. Lets face it if you cant ride a century how are you going to race 50? I did my first ride witha group and had the biggest reality check of my life, I rode with a B group and it was tough keeping up on the hills,,god do I need to drop 20LB for sure, and racing? forget it for me into I get more fit. some of the people in the ride dint even break a sweat for the 75 miles,,they rode talking like a walk in the park, more time on the saddle my friend,,join a club and do some ride with groups you can keep up with..