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able to road race with mt bike & slicks?(7 posts)

able to road race with mt bike & slicks?el bastardo
Jul 26, 2001 4:30 PM
I posted this over on MTBR and thought you guys might be able to help out as well.

So there's a local road race criterium coming up pretty soon and I was curious how competitive I might be. citizen is 20min + 3 laps and catV is 30min + 3 laps.

I'm riding a Sugar 2 with nimbus ex pro 1.5" at 100psi. I've been racing for about 2 years now and I finish in sport near the front. I can maintain an average of just under 20mph for an hour when I'm out riding on the slicks.

Basically, if I enter this race as a citizen or cat V, am I gonna have my ass handed to me?
Sure, but . . .Kerry Irons
Jul 26, 2001 4:38 PM
You probably will do better than some riders, as there will be those who are not going to be competitive whatever they ride. OTOH, you will be facing an aero penalty of 1-2 mph and pedaling losses due to suspension, so you won't be at the front for the sprint unless the field is not very competitive. And now that I think of it, I'm not sure the officials will let you enter with a suspension bike and straight bars - more likely to tangle bars because of the extra width. You might go to the USCF web page and check the rules.
must use drop barsDog
Jul 26, 2001 7:53 PM
Other than that, it's legal.

But, unless you are extraordinary, you'll get creamed. I doubt you can even put tall enough gears on that thing to pedal fast enough, much less the aero and weight penalty.

Borrow a bike or something. Get a used road bike for $500. Anything would be faster than the mtb.

maybe not, here are the rulesDog
Jul 27, 2001 5:39 AM
1J. Bicycles
1J1. Bicycles used in competition must be propelled solely by the rider's legs and shall have the following
(a) Dimensions. Bicycles may be no more than 2 meters long and 75 cm wide, except that tandems may
be up to 3 meters long
(b) There may be no protective shield, fairing, or other device on any part of the bicycle, which has the
effect of reducing air resistance except that spoke covers may be used
(c) Wheels may be made with spokes or solid construction. No wheel may contain special mechanisms to
store and release energy
(d) The handlebars ends shall be solidly plugged and attachments thereto shall be fashioned in such a
way as to minimize danger without impairing steering. Handlebars used for steering with ends that point
forward or upward or that provide support for the rider's forearms are permitted only in time trial and
pursuit events (not in Olympic Sprint); however, attachments that point upward on the brakehoods of road
bicycles are allowed if the distance between them is greater than 25 cm (9.8 inches). [disqualification]
1J2. Riders are responsible for their selection of competition equipment and for taking reasonable
precautions to insure that its condition is adequate and safe for use in competition.
(a) To maintain compliance with these regulations, the equipment and uniform of one or more riders may
be examined at any time to discover the use of items which are not allowed or which are obviously
improperly adjusted, insecurely fastened, or which may present a danger to the rider(s). The chief referee
shall prohibit the use of any such items discovered during the examination. Such examinations are
conducted at the discretion of the chief referee. An examination of every rider's equipment is not required.
(b) The Federation and any race organizer or sponsor, and their respective agents, officials, employees
and volunteers, shall not be liable for any damages or injuries arising from or connected in any way with
the condition or adequacy of any rider's competition equipment or uniform, regardless of whether or not
such competition equipment or uniform was examined or was not determined to be in violation of the rules.
1J3. For track races, only a bicycle with a single cog fixed wheel and without derailleurs may be used;
brakes, freewheels, quick releases, and wing nuts may be used only in time trial and pursuit events. For
road races, only a bicycle with a freewheel and one working brake on each wheel shall be used, except as
allowed elsewhere in these rules.
1J4. In roller races, either road or track bicycles may be used. All classes are restricted to a development
of 7.69 meters (25 feet 3 inches) and cranks must be at least 165 mm. long.
1J5. A handcycle is a 3-wheeled cycle with standard bicycle drivetrain and standard bicycle crankarms.
The cycle must be operated by pedaling and shifting using only the upper body to perform said functions.
The maximum wheelbase for a handcycle is 72 inches. Handcycles must have a chainring guard to protect
the rider from the drivetrain. As of January 1, 2000, all handcycles must have 2 separate working brake
calipers (or discs) and a fully-functional lever for each.

really disadvantageous gearingwes
Jul 29, 2001 8:36 PM
I agree with doug's point that you can't get "tall enough gears." You will have a 42x12 when everyone else will have a 53x12. This is a huge difference and if the speed gets faster, you may be fit enough to hang in there, but can you really spin your crank that fast?
dammit... thanks for the info (nm)el bastardo
Jul 27, 2001 1:48 PM
on the other side of the coinBIKETREVRO
Aug 8, 2001 6:46 AM
I say enter the citizens and go for it. I used to all my winter training rides on a fisher paragon with a 63mm fork and 1.5 semislicks and keep up/ drop many others. the sugar you have has a pretty efficent suspension design. i would pump the psi way up in the rear shock and turn the compression way up in the fork (or lockout either if you have that option), crank those slicks up to near top of their psi rating and go for it...

there was a kid from St. Mikes college who finished top 5 in a collegiate series crit in the B race (cat3-4 ish) on a zaskar, but when he got a real rd bike he was really sick...

I have a santa cruz superlight and a nice road bike and am going away to the other coast for 2 months and can only bring one bike. im bringing the SC and plan on doing a cat 5 crit or 2 while im out there... i race collegiate cat B on the road...