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What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?(12 posts)

What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?MeMyselfandI
Jul 15, 2001 7:49 PM
My favorite has got to be chasing down teammates.
Anyone care to add to the list?
re: What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?peloton
Jul 15, 2001 9:12 PM
Ego from the slow. Nothing more to say.

Being slow is okay. Having an ego is not.
"inside, inside"Foster
Jul 16, 2001 6:51 AM
How about all the idiots in a crit that don't know how to corner. They speed up and get the inside lane, then yell 'inside,inside' because they can't make the corner, idiots!
There is nothing worse then a pack of 4's trying to take a corner, all hundred of them at the same time.
enough already!db
Jul 16, 2001 8:44 AM
How about instead of ripping on riders that you believe are inferior to you, you offer some of your elite knowledge? I'm so sick of reading posts dealing with the differences between cats. I've seen some pretty dumb moves happen in cat 1/2 races, as well as cat 4/5. Let's not turn the racing message board into a gossip column. Turn off Jerry Springer for an hour and go for a ride with a cat 4/5 and teach him some of your immense racing knowledge.
Hey, I'm a 4...Foster
Jul 16, 2001 9:12 AM
DB, I'm not trying to 'rip on riders', I'm a cat 4 myself. The harsh reallity is that most 4/5's don't have any racing skills. Why, because they haven't practiced them. Before I started racing crits, I took a few classes at the local velodrome. The skills that I learned have not only helped in racing, but in riding in general.
If I could offer one piece of advice, it would be for every single bike rider (rec. rider, racing newbie, etc.) to learn basic bumping, cornering and paceline skills. I'd hate to state the obvious, but it's the lack of these skills that contribute to the large amount of crashes in the lower category races.
As am I...MeMyselfandI
Jul 16, 2001 1:59 PM
and I'm not trying to rip on people.
agreeColnagoFE
Jul 19, 2001 7:26 AM
everyone's gotta start somewhere...this kind of crap is what keeps new riders from trying racing. if you want this sport to thrive you gotta support the beginners and make them welcome.
Talk about over generalizing.J.S.
Jul 16, 2001 9:12 AM
I'm just now a 4, but when I was a 5 I raced quite a few 1-5 masters races including state championships. trust me there are Knuckleheads in all Cats, except as they move up they go from being clueless to being jerks, oh well. Also, being a higher category doesn't make you a better rider, as a 5 I finished well ahead of many 2-3's in road races including finishing in what was left of the bunch(60 of 125 starters) after a brutal state championships.
re: What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?Old Guy
Jul 16, 2001 3:03 PM
My favorite Cat-5 quirk is when some sleeveless-jersey wearing one-day license dude goes off the front in a long RR and kicks the crap out of a bunch of 3s in an open race. Yep, that would have to be it.
re: What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?Pack Meat
Jul 17, 2001 1:52 PM
You could look at these quirks as advice because they are obviously stupid things you shouldn't do.

My favorite is overlapping wheels in a RR when the pack is just cruising along. I don't know what the thought process is there, will that 12 inches really make a difference?

I'm a Cat 4, so no flames please.

PM
The Pack Diesellonefrontranger
Jul 17, 2001 3:24 PM
(and yes, I'm also a 4)

My all-time fave (and this happens in other cats AND women's fields) is the "Pack Diesel". This is some ungodly strong time triallist type (almost always sans teammates) who tows everyone bugnuts back up to the breakaway, then finishes nowhere and/or OTB. What the heck is up with THAT? Especially when I'm one of the ones busting my buns in the breakaway, only to see this dork(ette) chasing us down FOR NO APPARENT REASON. Grr!
re: What's the best Cat. 4 quirk?WiscoFever
Jul 19, 2001 5:00 PM
My fave cat 4 quirk is overreacting. I've seen several riders freak out if they get bumped, and cause half the pack to come down. Another one: braking into corners!!! lay off the brakes, please! I've been doing a lot of cat 4 races (4 so far this week) and I've seen lots of stuff.