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Pronounce Zabel for me ...Sherpa
Jun 21, 2001 7:58 AM
Are you German? Maybe that would help .

I need to a minor disagreement ...?

After watching plenty of Ligget / Sherman race commentaries ... I figured that Erik Zabel's last name was pronounced like "Zar-bell" ... as in it rhymes with barbell ...

My friend always says, "Zay-Bell" -- rhyming with the classy car from Mercury, as in the Mercury Sable ...

What do you say ...

ZAH-bl is my American version (nm)...Lazy
Jun 21, 2001 8:39 AM
T-za-bell. With a T in front. (nm)Bruno S
Jun 21, 2001 2:52 PM
My German exlonefrontranger
Jun 24, 2001 10:38 AM
pronounces it "TzAH-bl": short a, silent e. You can assume he's correct, as he's from the same region as our speedy subject.

I lived in Hamburg for a year, the German Z is pronounced "Tz" (but they say "Tzed" when referring to a letter Z, don't ask me...) Long "A" is a Welsh / Irish affliction, I don't recall that the Germans even have a pronunciation for "aay" (it's one of the letters they don't umlaut I believe).

Liggett and Sherwen are merely adding the British working-class "r" to the "ah" that you hear so very often in Manchesterese. If you listen closely, you'll note they sometimes slip and pronounce "th" as "f" as well, a sure sign of humble origins.
My German exSherpa
Jun 25, 2001 6:46 AM
finally an explaination I can believe !!!

thanks for your time lonefrontranger!