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Trainer vs. Road time(7 posts)

Trainer vs. Road timeMichelle
Apr 23, 2001 1:38 PM
What does an hour of speed or power training on a trainer equate to in road time or miles?

Ex. 1 hour on trainer = 2 hours on road, etc

Thanks!
re: Trainer vs. Road timeLazy
Apr 23, 2001 2:32 PM
Personal opinion:

1 hour at HR XXX = 1 hour at HR XXX.

This unfortunately does not equate well to the legs.

1 hour on the road may or may not equal 1 hour on the road regardless of HR.

Climbing at 175 BPM for one hour will train different muscular systems than TTing a flat course for one hour at 175 BPM due to spin rate, and positional differences.

Again, this is personal opinion based on perceived personal experience and it may turn out that I'm off my rocker. It wouldn't be the first time. I'm curious what others have to say.
re: Trainer vs. Road timeBenjamin
Apr 23, 2001 5:14 PM
I'm with you lazy. While you'd think that there is some kind of equation, I just feel more worn out after a real ride than after some (hard) trainer time. I also get faster quicker on the road.

Don't get me wrong, I love my trainer, but I feel so different after an hour on the road.
agreeDuane Gran
Apr 24, 2001 4:24 AM
I agree with you. We all sense a real difference, but it is hard to put ones finger on it. If I had to guess, one difference would be in the use of the upper body. Riding on the road requires frequent changes in movement from the upper body to accommodate changes in terrain and grade. The trainer simply can't replicate the need to bunny hop a pot hole in the road.

On a related topic, I found an appreciable improvement in my riding when I incorporated uppper body strength training into my program. Although the legs are the main motor, the upper body certainly plays a role.
agreeBenjamin
Apr 24, 2001 5:03 PM
Again, I agree (can you all feel the love?). When I lift, I just FEEL stronger on the bike. There's something about feeling the muscles in your upper body when you hold onto the handlebars. Dunno, maybe its just me...
HR workout or bicycle workout?Old Guy
Apr 26, 2001 12:55 PM
If you're only interested in an HR workout, do either. Use your monitor and train away.

BUT. When you're on the road, you're:
- Balancing the bike.
- Using your upper body.
- Can simulate real racing situations.

My thoughts? Train on the trainer when you have to and when you want to do a very HR-specific workout. Ride on the road when you can.
1 hour trainer = 1.1 hours road (1mile trainer = 1.2miles road)Ball and Chain Racer
Apr 27, 2001 11:31 AM
I've done quite a bit of comparisons of similar workouts (i.e., tempo, short intervals, long hills etc), and have come up with the above ratios. I have based the comparisons on specific workouts, and fixed energy levels (joules - via a Power Tap). Generally speaking, the most effective and time efficient workouts for the trainer are tempo and short intervals- the least efficient being hills(usually couter-intuitive for most people)and endurance rides.

Hope this helps.