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so let's use the saddam standard here.(13 posts)

so let's use the saddam standard here.rufus
Feb 2, 2004 9:56 AM
"if he doesn't have WMD's , then why doesn't he just come clean? if he's not cooperating, he must be hiding something."

or the standard the right wing types always counter with when "liberals" mention the patriot act: "if you don't have anything to hide, why are you so worried?"

and apply it to this:

"The White House, already embroiled in a public fight over the deadline for an independent commission's investigation of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, is refusing to give the panel notes on presidential briefing papers taken by some of its own members, officials said this week."

"The latest dispute stems from an agreement reached in November that allowed a four-member team from the commission to examine highly classified documents known as the President's Daily Brief (PDB), including a controversial August 2001 memo that discusses the possibility of airline hijackings by al Qaeda terrorists. The deal allowed the team -- made up of three commission members and Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow -- to take notes on the materials that would be passed along to the rest of the commission, but only after the White House gave its approval.

The team completed its work several weeks ago but has been unable to reach an agreement with the White House on how to share its summaries with the seven commission members who were not privy to the material, officials said."
The safety of millions of Americans comes before theOldEdScott
Feb 2, 2004 10:14 AM
so-called 'right' of this 'commission' to root around in any national security matters it takes a fancy to. Given how well The President has protected us since 9/11, I think we owe him and his team the benefit of the doubt here.
ah, i forgot it's opposites dayrufus
Feb 2, 2004 10:20 AM
sorry for not playing along.
Moderator, Please delete this post! Don't you know the firstbboc
Feb 2, 2004 10:25 AM
rule of Fight Club? You never talk about Fight Club. Jeez, you'll spoil all the fun.
Liberals never play by the rules, unlessOldEdScott
Feb 2, 2004 10:33 AM
it's THEIR rules and they can shove them down everyone's throats.
and here's some results of the commission's findings so farrufus
Feb 2, 2004 10:17 AM

"In a series of staff reports issued during hearings on Monday and Tuesday, commission investigators disclosed that U.S. border authorities missed numerous warning signs that could have helped them stop the attackers from entering the United States, including clearly fraudulent passports and false statements on visa applications. The commission also found that nine of the 19 hijackers had been flagged by the Federal Aviation Administration's computerized screening system but were still allowed to board their flights on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001.

The missteps span both the Clinton and Bush administrations. The commission's conclusions contrast with repeated statements by government officials, since the attacks, that characterized the hijackers as law-abiding travelers who did little to attract official scrutiny."
If this country wasn't so firmly in the grip of the Libsbboc
Feb 2, 2004 10:18 AM
this kind of conspiricy talk that paints a wartime president as working against the intrests of America would be fully prosecuted as treason. GWB would never lie to the american people, or knowingly put us at risk to further any political agenda. This 9-11 conspiracy and issues like it (ie the WMD sexing up crap) will only infuriate the public and result in the imminent landslide reelection of our benevolent president.
wow. excellent reply!rufus
Feb 2, 2004 10:22 AM
even if he did lie, so what?mohair_chair
Feb 2, 2004 10:56 AM
He's the President, dammit! I for one like the fact that this country finally has a leader who just doesn't give a damn what people think. It's nice to be the big bully on the block for a change, and anyone who messes with the USofA is going to get their butt kicked bigtime. And you know what? The President doesn't need to ask me if it's okay, and he doesn't need to explain it afterwards. If a few innocents get hurt in the process, so what? Kill them all, let God sort them out. The safety of this nation demands nothing less.
Same standard that explains why Clinton wouldn't testify.OldEdScott
Feb 2, 2004 10:32 AM
He had something to hide, didn't he?

I bet the Witch has plenty to hide back in Arkansas too. Including some Rose billing records??
what are the important numbers?DougSloan
Feb 2, 2004 2:51 PM
And how many people did the Clintons kill compared to the Bushes? What's the body count? How's that for a standard for comparison?
Courage of his convictionsTurtleherder
Feb 2, 2004 1:22 PM
This country finally has the leader that we have needed all along. One who can carry out his grand ideal for a new America and a new world order without having to suck up to any socialist, old europe pussy countries and one who knows what he knows from the beginning of his administration without having to consult or be swayed by anyone elses opinions, especially those bleeding heart pinkos in the liberal media.
the commisionDougSloan
Feb 2, 2004 2:49 PM
The appointment of a commission is the modern way of sweeping something under the rug. Sure, they'll someday come up with findings, probably about 2 days after Bush leaves office, be that in 2005 or 2009. Meanwhile, he can "honestly" say they are investigating something he already knows.