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OldEd, what's your take re Dean campaign ...HouseMoney
Jan 30, 2004 11:05 AM
Dean trying to sell himself as a Washington outsider, but brings the consummate DC insider, prolific lobbyist, and former Gore adviser Roy Neel in to head his campaign, with Joe Trippi resigning instead of taking a lesser role?

Or is the Dean campaign so far gone that you don't even care?

I also read where his campaign may have already squandered $35MM of his total $40MM campaign warchest.
It's astonishingOldEdScott
Jan 30, 2004 11:12 AM
how much money they've pissed away. Just amazing. It's HARD to spend that much money on two states in a month.

No politician or campaign staff would ever do it in the heat of a race, but from my comfortable distance I would have pulled the plug on the campaign six seconds after the Iowa 'concession' speech. Only a genius like Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan can recover from something like that.

Yesterday's shakekup was just death rattle.
It's astonishingbill105
Jan 30, 2004 11:24 AM
and you picked him to be the next managers of all the countries money.
country'sbill105
Jan 30, 2004 11:24 AM
It's astonishingbboc
Jan 30, 2004 11:44 AM
"you picked him to be the next managers of all the countries money."

Well.... we all know that GWB is the most fiscally responsable Prez we have ever had.
just spending it on all the crap you libbys demand (nm)bill105
Jan 30, 2004 11:52 AM
How's your paint thinner bill, bill? nmBottomBracketShell
Jan 30, 2004 11:54 AM
Like tax cuts for Bush campaign donators?czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 12:09 PM
You're making more sense than usual.
It's amazing that in your world a Republican controlledbboc
Jan 30, 2004 12:12 PM
Congress under a Republican Prez is so beholden to the demands of the Libbys . WAKE UP!!!! The Republicans are responsable for the current budget crisis, there is no doubt about that to anyone with an IQ above 20. The fact that you can try to pin it on the Libs shows the depth of your insanity.
how are republicans responsible?bill105
Jan 30, 2004 12:15 PM
They control all three branches of the Government!czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 12:19 PM
Interesting how these guys only stop boasting about the death of liberalism long enough to blame liberals for their ongoing failures.
They control all three branches of the Government!bill105
Jan 30, 2004 12:23 PM
but blaming them for the recession and the resulting slowing of the economy is wacky.
You're right, they are above reporach. Blameless.czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 12:25 PM
All of our budget problems are the fault of liberals.

Wacky.
they controlled the car until the moment of collisionbill105
Jan 30, 2004 12:28 PM
then said "here, you drive"
Yup. That is a very reasonable interpretation. (nm)czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 12:31 PM
Hold it, Bill. Can't let that one pass.Cory
Jan 30, 2004 2:07 PM
I'm ignoring you on the pissing-match-with-a-skunk principle, but you're just raving now. If you look closely, or at all, you'll see that Bush is spending money on the war with Iraq, tax cuts for the rich, an education "plan" that's going to be (wait and see) a complete disaster and subsidies for tax-dodging corporations. I haven't missed a meeting of the Liberal Conspiracy in months, and I haven't heard a single person speak in favor of those things.
He could get Gray Davis to be his running mate!No_sprint
Jan 30, 2004 11:49 AM
Lots in common!
so is it Kerry vs. Edwards now? nmgtx
Jan 30, 2004 1:28 PM
so is it Kerry vs. Edwards now? nmgtx
Jan 30, 2004 2:19 PM
so much for the Democratic party apocalypsemohair_chair
Jan 30, 2004 2:37 PM
A few days ago you had Dean with his $40 million, sans nomination, flying solo and dividing the party. I guess that ain't gonna happen now!

ABC News did a thing a few nights ago on Dean's "I Have a Scream" speech. Diane Sawyer did it. They showed that he had a microphone that canceled out background sound, so you couldn't hear the audience hootin' and hollerin'. They then showed video taken by someone in the audience that included the crowd noise and ambient sound, and it was a totally different feel. It was more like a revival meeting than crazy angry psycho man.

Funny how the news distorts things, even though the distortion was unintentional. In fact, Dean can be blamed for using audio equipment that put him at a disadvantage and basically killed his campaign. At least ABC stepped up to the plate and pointed it out.
If that "scream" killed his entire campaign. . .czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 3:45 PM
. . .Dean can blame himself for running for president of a country populated by superficial nit-wits who don't care what he can do for this country if he isn't "qualified" for the Mr. America Pageant.
well that about says it.rufus
Jan 30, 2004 4:22 PM
watching Hardball here, and Matthews has Joe Trippi on, and one of the things he mentions is how the president makes no mention of it in his state of the union address, but the next day comes out and asks for 40$ billion more for iraq, something i hadn't even heard about. but what was the media focus for that day, and the rest of the week? howard dean screaming, over and over again.
I couldn't agree moremohair_chair
Jan 30, 2004 4:39 PM
First time I saw it, I figured it was done to rouse the troops and nothing more. But it's taken on a life of its own and is now a running joke. I've heard a number of hip hop style songs made from the speech, one of which is really funny.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. These guys are totally about image and media presence, and issues are secondary. They treat the unwashed masses as superficial nit-wits, and when you do that, you risk the nit-wits turning on you. He did and they did. So I don't feel too bad about Dean.
Dean did that?czardonic
Jan 30, 2004 5:22 PM
He seemed less about image and media presence than most.