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For the "It's better in Iraq" folk, what do you make of ...(12 posts)

For the "It's better in Iraq" folk, what do you make of ...dr hoo
Jan 15, 2004 4:45 PM
... this:

"Iraq's Governing Council on Wednesday defended its approval of a controversial family law that would make it possible to apply Islamic law - Sharia - instead of civil statute in domestic matters such as inheritance and divorce."

http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1073281040335

Who really cares, after all it's only women. And kids.

Seriously, there goes one part of civil law over to religious law. An isolated case? The start of a trend?
For the jackbooted, right-wing fundamentalists here...The Walrus
Jan 15, 2004 5:17 PM
...that probably sounds like a splendid approach; ergo, it IS better in Iraq! How soon is Atty. Gen. A$$crust relocating to Baghdad?
dr hoo! A ruling please!OldEdScott
Jan 16, 2004 5:20 AM
Does 'jackbooted' in the subject line invoke Godwin's Law?? I mean, it's metaphorical and all, but salient. Do the specific words 'Hitler' or 'Nazi' have to appear? I'm hopeful it's the latter. I'm fond of the jackboot usage.
As a strict Jargon File constructionist, I would say...dr hoo
Jan 16, 2004 5:41 AM
... it has to be Hitler or Nazi. Jackboot is a far more general referent.

Feel free to make mention of other specific fascists if you want. I think Mussolini is underused.
Mussolini was aOldEdScott
Jan 16, 2004 5:56 AM
poossy. He was a really piss-poor fascist. I'm doubtful I'll have use for Mussolini. But thanks for the green light. There may be some candy-ass fascists on this board who'd deserve to have M hung around their necks.
Sure, sure, that's why I mentioned him.dr hoo
Jan 16, 2004 6:04 AM
Bush. Mussolini.

Then mention Ashcroft, Cheney and/or Wolfowitz and...

i waves his hand in a generally northward direction
Poll: top fascists in historymohair_chair
Jan 16, 2004 7:28 AM
M was a doofus. I'd rate Franco over him. Franco was still ruling in the early 1970s!

Maybe we need to vote on this. Choose your favorite:

1. Hitler
2. Mussolini
3. Generalissimo Franco
4. Juan Peron
5. John Ashcroft
6. Milosevic

I'm coming up short on modern day fascists, so write-in candidates allowed.
Look at the goofball on the left.OldEdScott
Jan 16, 2004 7:44 AM
Guy in the middle looks formidable. Fellow on the right looks like he knows how to have a good time, at least.

http://www.paradoxmind.com/WWII_Europe/Fascist_Leaders.html
...but is the guy in the middle wearing jackboots?The Walrus
Jan 16, 2004 12:49 PM
He looks like some stooge of the administration addressing a midwestern Chamber of Commerce luncheon. Mussolini looks like he got into Elton John's stage wardrobe, while Franco definitely looks like he was a USC frat boy at one time.
Does Mussolini count for Godwin's law? (nm)ColnagoFE
Jan 16, 2004 8:09 AM
hoo says no. I trust him nmOldEdScott
Jan 16, 2004 8:14 AM
You and the NRA, Edtorquer
Jan 16, 2004 8:28 AM
Lets remember that "jackbooted" became current after some NRA honcho (not Moses, I think it was Wayne somebody) referred to "jackbooted govermnent thugs" denying 'mericans their god-given right to anti-tank ordinance. The government thugs reference went over really well after Oklahoma City, and I recall that honcho having to do some community service penance, like teaching kindergardeners proper M-16 maintenance.

Now lets see: the wacko right calls the purported leftists at the ATF "jackboots", a term previously reserved for fascists. You almost want to ask a Lyndon LaRouche cultist to explain the left/right dynamics at work here. Any volunteers?