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To all you nice guys [moderator edited](11 posts)

To all you nice guys [moderator edited]mdehner
Jan 15, 2004 11:40 AM
now that I have your attention, I have a serious query:

Does it strike any of you as pointless that the language in my headline is (presumably, based on the usage by others here) acceptable, while using the actual naughty words is not? What consideration favors the silly substitution of one or two letters in an otherwise taboo word, while plainly preserving the intended reference?

It's not really a criticism, more a philosophical query.

Oh, and I don't consider any of you to be f*cking @ssholes. You're great. Really.
That term is offensive to my people. (nm)czardonic
Jan 15, 2004 11:58 AM
Working on a column about that right nowCory
Jan 15, 2004 1:40 PM
Saw the news this morning about FCC Chairman Michael "The Nepotyte" Powell and his crusade, and I'm just f****** giggling to myself. I'm not particularly in favor of using the Actual Words--though if we did, maybe they'd lose their impact and go away--but it seems so silly to print, for instance, f*** or s***, as though only the previously corrupted can fill in the blanks.
Don't know where I'm going yet, but maybe I'll do it in rhyme: We can say buck and luck and muck but not f***, and chit and writ and skit but not s***....
By the way, some of you ARE f****** a*******.
Working on a column about that right nowColnagoFE
Jan 15, 2004 2:15 PM
sorta OT but funny--found it on google:

Tallulah Bankhead met a young Norman Mailer shortly after the release of his novel The Naked and the Dead. Tallulah in her raspy baritone cocked an eyebrow and Norman and said, "You're the young man who can't spell f*ck."
Mailers book was filled with the F_word, only at the publishers insistence,it was spelled, fug.
no, not acceptableDougSloan
Jan 15, 2004 2:16 PM
Don't go that far in the subject line; as you mentioned, it's really not acceptable here, in my opinion, at least in the subject line that everyone has to look at. No big deal, and I know I've done similar things, but that's a little much.

Of course, you are feel to appeal to a higher court.

What, are you anti-nice guys? Or just a radical feminist?dr hoo
Jan 15, 2004 4:26 PM
Doug, maybe you might want to consider putting something like:


... in your reply. Just to let people know. This thread reads a BIT surreal the way it is.
"Adult language" is a misnomer.Spoke Wrench
Jan 16, 2004 7:51 AM
Shouldn't it really be called "adolescent language"?
not really....ColnagoFE
Jan 16, 2004 8:13 AM
Most critically acclaimed music, movies, books, and works of art seem to be enamored of using the F word. In some movies it gets a little old hearing F this and F that all the time, but I'm not offended by it. I think it's like Lenny Bruce forsaw--that it is now used so much--by everyone--not just dock workers and sailors anymore--that it has lost much of its sting and obsceneness.
Yeah, really.Spoke Wrench
Jan 16, 2004 8:46 AM
I drive a school bus so I gets lots of opportunity to observe adolescent behavior. Use of the "F" word is much more common among my middle school students than among my high school students. It looks to me like by high school most people have grown out of using such language excessively.

As a school bus driver, it takes more than using a word to offend me. I think it's silly and I'm likely to tell them why. Substitute the words "sexual intercourse" for the way the "F" word is commonly used and see how intelligent it sounds. i.e. "Shut the sexual intercourse up!"
But don't you agreeColnagoFE
Jan 16, 2004 9:24 AM
That the F word is nowhere near as shocking as it once was....say in the 50s. And I think the reason is that you hear it everywhere. It may still be vulgar, but it isn't quite the swear word it used to be. I even hear it quite often among some adults in social situations. Check out any sports bar on game day for corroboration. I'm predicting we will be able to hear it on the radio before long. I agree that it can be used cheaply by adolescents to seem grown up and cool, but there still are certain situations where a well placed F word or other appropriate obscenity gets the point across best.
That I'll agree with.Spoke Wrench
Jan 16, 2004 10:08 AM
Actually, I'm not above using the occasional vulgarism myself, but not nearly to the degree that my middle schoolers do. I have a son who used to use the "F" word so much that I called him the chicken man "_uck, _uck, _uck, _uck."

An ex co-worker had a comic CD that discussed use of the "F" word as all seven parts of speech using examples that we've all heard before. It had a high tone British sounding narrator and NPR-type background music. It was hilarious!