Jan 14, 2004 7:37 AM
|The whole country use to work this way||Scot_Gore|
Jan 14, 2004 8:11 AM
|But I didn't think there was any of it left. Back in the 19th century, every town was on a different time. Passengers would ride the stage from town to town and as they moved West the time would jump forward by a little bit. Each town determined their own time. When cross country rail passenger service became wide spread, the railroads couldn't set reliable schedules for any stops since each town had their own time. The railroads lobbied for the zones we know today and towns adopted them since then they could tell what time the next train was coming.
This must be somewhere where the trains never went.
Interesting, where'd you find it ?
|never knew that||DougSloan|
Jan 14, 2004 8:22 AM
|Interesting. I came across it just doing some browsing. Serendipity.
I guess common time was not so important when communication was largely by snail mail and travel slow. I suppose "sunrise," "high noon," and "sunset" was about all you needed, particularly in a rural area.
|yep, it is interesting. One other point:||dr hoo|
Jan 14, 2004 8:34 AM
|Scheduling was important, but the key factor in pushing standard time through was safety. Being late (or early) is a hassle, but having two trains on the same track going opposite ways is a BIG issue.
For what it's worth, the standard text for railroad switching was written in the 30's, and not much has changed since then.
dr. (spent xmas day riding the rails inspecting track and watching bald eagles) hoo
|...and getting more interesting...||The Walrus|
Jan 14, 2004 10:37 AM
|"spent xmas day riding the rails inspecting track and..." Can I take it from this that you're MoW personnel? If so, what line do you work for? ...or are you just another foamer?|
|LOL! no, none, and no (I don't think).||dr hoo|
Jan 14, 2004 11:03 AM
|My father in law is a supervisor for a small rail line. They only maintain the track, and don't haul any freight themselves. He has a spiffy Excursion with the trucks (I think they are called) that lower onto the rails.
Nice guy, but he did tell me AFTER we were done that I should not have had my seatbelt on... just in case we had to abandon truck. Hmmmm, maybe he's not such a nice guy after all? Nah, be bought me breakfast and tipped all the waitresses $5 each for their xmas morning stress.
I didn't do much inspecting, but he gave me a good lecture on what he was looking for. It was fun to be totally ignorant and confused for a few hours.
So, what is MoW, and wtf is a "foamer"?
|Never saw a high-railer Excursion...||The Walrus|
Jan 14, 2004 4:46 PM
|"MoW" is Maintenance-of-Way, the crews checking the track conditions, signal equipment, roadbed, etc. "Foamer" is what a lot of railway people call people like me (and presumably Live Steam) who have, ummmm, more than a casual interest in trains (derived from "foaming at the mouth"--which I can legitimately and categorically deny ever doing). Oh, and the
term for us is "railfans"....
Jan 14, 2004 5:06 PM
|I am definitely NOT a railfan. I think rail is a good thing, but I never understood those that get into it. Especially those that do the model rail thing. That always struck me as SO boring.
Not there is anything wrong with it, or those that like the real railroad history and equipment.
|Hmmmm--sounds like we need an RBR excursion to...||The Walrus|
Jan 14, 2004 6:34 PM
|the San Juan Mtns in Colorado and New Mexico. Do some riding with hellacious climbs and descents, singletrack and jeep trails, and then on recovery days, ride the Cumbres & Toltec and Durango & Silverton trains. That'd make a believer outta ya! (To get a general idea, watch "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade", where young Indy escapes on the circus train--that's the Cumbres & Toltec.)
Okay--I'll shift out of foamer mode now....
|Check out China on a time zone map||Scot_Gore|
Jan 14, 2004 8:36 AM
The ultimate in emperor's centrism. The time for me will be the time for all.
|It's in Australia||Dave_Stohler|
Jan 14, 2004 11:16 PM
|They do that there. (The left-side sign on a desertlike road is a dead giveaway). Also, Canada has a 1/2 hour timezone change for the isle of Newfoundland. It's 30 minutes ahead of the Atlantic timezone, which is 1 hour ahead of the eastern time zone.|| |