|Good Policy or "His'pandering'"??||94Nole|
Jan 7, 2004 9:57 AM
|Is Bush just pandering to the Hispanic population for votes or is this policy seeking to fulfill a real need as these people will do work that snobish Americans simply aren't willing to do? I see it from both sides.
|Well, I'd imagine the you know whos will spin it someway...||No_sprint|
Jan 7, 2004 10:05 AM
|They'll probably say this is a backdoor way to identify them all then secretly take them outside and shoot 'em.
It appears that another identifier to the typical Dumo platform has disappeared. What's left now? Union support? Actually is closer to nothing in my opinion.
|Let's wait to see the fine print||ColnagoFE|
Jan 7, 2004 10:54 AM
|It's a good sound byte for GWB to be able to say he supports illegals keeping jobs, but I haven't seen all the fine print on it yet. Might not be what it appears on the surface.|
|This "you know who" thinks it's good policy||Dale Brigham|
Jan 7, 2004 10:20 AM
|Lots of "guest workers" would become legal, if this policy is implemented. Sounds fine to me, especially since about half of the fences and roofs (among other things) in Texas are built by those folks.
No sprint: You are so wrong about the Adminstration using this as a ploy to round up illegal immigrants. Shame on you! We all know the re-education camps are reserved for unrepentent Dumocrats to be rounded up after the next election. I'm calling top bunk on Old Ed!
|Don't be too hard on No_sprint. . .||czardonic|
Jan 7, 2004 11:34 AM
|. . .he is just parroting a spin that is making the rounds on Fox News. Heard it myself this morning when I tuned in for 2 Minutes Hate.|
|Of course it is!||oldbutslow|
Jan 7, 2004 10:28 AM
|First he panders to the seasoned citizens with prescription drug entitlement, then he limits steel imports for the unions and now he's pandering to the latinos. I am beginning to think this guy just baited us with a tax cut before he leads us all to the slaughterhouse. I can not express my anger at this RINO without using words that would get my kicked off for life!|
|Is there anyone in politics today who doesn't pander? (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jan 7, 2004 10:51 AM
|Well, just imagine you've been waiting for a few years||purplepaul|
Jan 7, 2004 2:14 PM
|for a green card to enter the US legally. How happy would you be hearing that millions of people who jumped the line and broke the law are now being rewarded?
Is there any incentive now for anyone to go the legal route?
Perhaps we should change the law. But as long as it is the law, and they broke it, they should not be rewarded. They should be deported. If we've got room for millions of illegals, then what's the hold up with granting entrance to those willing to do it by the rules?
|The incentive is gone.||czardonic|
Jan 7, 2004 2:57 PM
|But so what? If these millions of unscreened illegals have been deemed worthy of amnesty, why waste resources on the minority of immigrants who volunteer to jump through hoops for us? Rubber stamp their green cards and send them a sympathy card for their wasted time -- just kidding, they'll get over it sans card.
Deporting a vital portion of our economy because "it is the law" is nuts.
|that's almost exactly what R. Limbaugh said recently||DougSloan|
Jan 7, 2004 3:01 PM
|I'm worried about you.|
|Deporting a vital portion of our economy because "it is the law"||purplepaul|
Jan 7, 2004 3:11 PM
|So let's give amnesty to drug dealers because they're a vital portion of our economy too. In fact, the country would be better off, financially, if illegal drugs were made legal.
Changing the law to reflect reality is one thing. Ignoring it is another.
|Abe Lincoln said...||DougSloan|
Jan 7, 2004 3:14 PM
|"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."|
|Rush would probably agree. (nm)||czardonic|
Jan 7, 2004 3:18 PM
|Then, for once, I'd be in agreement with him. nm||purplepaul|
Jan 7, 2004 3:20 PM
Jan 7, 2004 3:29 PM
|czar, you're a leaf eating vegetarian aren't you?||purplepaul|
Jan 7, 2004 5:55 PM
|Well, so am I.
You gonna start eating meat now?
|No, I am not.(nm)||czardonic|
Jan 7, 2004 6:15 PM
|Hmm. My mistake. So let me put it this way||purplepaul|
Jan 7, 2004 7:51 PM
|Hitler was a vegetarian, but that doesn't keep me from being one also.|
|No. I am a vegetarian. And no, I am not . . .||czardonic|
Jan 8, 2004 10:50 AM
|. . .going to start eating meat because people like you and Hitler are also vegetarians.|
|And yet you suggest there's something wrong with my position||purplepaul|
Jan 8, 2004 1:37 PM
|simply because Rush would agree?
You are a bundle of inconsistency.
|I suggested that? (nm)||czardonic|
Jan 8, 2004 1:48 PM
|Did you not mean to||purplepaul|
Jan 8, 2004 2:19 PM
|belittle my position by linking it with Rush?
Ah, what does it matter?
|I think you are paranoid.||czardonic|
Jan 8, 2004 2:24 PM
|I can't see any way that you might come to the conclusion that I was belittling your position.
That is, unless you pegged me as some stereotypical liberal who thinks that anything Rush says is by definition ridiculous. If that is the case, you are right: it doesn't matter what I said, you know what I must have meant.
|I'll take option B. nm||purplepaul|
Jan 8, 2004 2:29 PM
|can't give the guy any credit, can you (Democrats)||DougSloan|
Jan 7, 2004 2:53 PM
|Bush does anything slightly suggestive of middle of the road or liberal, and he's instantly labeled as "pandering" or having some concealed evil motive.
What if Clinton had done the exact same things?
Besides, what's wrong with trying to get votes? Duh?
|If Clinton had done the same thing. . .||czardonic|
Jan 7, 2004 3:00 PM
|. . .GOP xenophobes would be apoplectic.
I think that George W. Bush's commitment to daily excercise sets a worthy and timely example for all Americans.
|you're really messing with me now||DougSloan|
Jan 7, 2004 3:04 PM
|Personal compliments of the President now?
This *IS* Earth, isn't it?
|He was 'giving credit' to prove you wrong.||OldEdScott|
Jan 8, 2004 8:16 AM
|Typical Stalinist mind game.|
|slightly suggestive of middle ...||oldbutslow|
Jan 8, 2004 1:06 PM
|Is this flip flop day? Except for executing the war on terrorism, this guy has proved to be worse than Clinton. CFR, Prescription Benefits, Education, and I can't remember what else. This guy is 100% RINO. I am wondering why the Demo's are even bothering with a primary.
"Besides, what's wrong with trying to get votes? Duh?"
Duh, How about enforcing the laws of the land? Isn't that part of the presidential oath?
I expected better from a god fearing man. Looks like he is
just like all the rest.