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Good Policy or "His'pandering'"??(29 posts)

Good Policy or "His'pandering'"??94Nole
Jan 7, 2004 9:57 AM
Is Bush just pandering to the Hispanic population for votes or is this policy seeking to fulfill a real need as these people will do work that snobish Americans simply aren't willing to do? I see it from both sides.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040107/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_immigration
Well, I'd imagine the you know whos will spin it someway...No_sprint
Jan 7, 2004 10:05 AM
They'll probably say this is a backdoor way to identify them all then secretly take them outside and shoot 'em.

It appears that another identifier to the typical Dumo platform has disappeared. What's left now? Union support? Actually is closer to nothing in my opinion.
Let's wait to see the fine printColnagoFE
Jan 7, 2004 10:54 AM
It's a good sound byte for GWB to be able to say he supports illegals keeping jobs, but I haven't seen all the fine print on it yet. Might not be what it appears on the surface.
This "you know who" thinks it's good policyDale Brigham
Jan 7, 2004 10:20 AM
Lots of "guest workers" would become legal, if this policy is implemented. Sounds fine to me, especially since about half of the fences and roofs (among other things) in Texas are built by those folks.

No sprint: You are so wrong about the Adminstration using this as a ploy to round up illegal immigrants. Shame on you! We all know the re-education camps are reserved for unrepentent Dumocrats to be rounded up after the next election. I'm calling top bunk on Old Ed!

Dale
Don't be too hard on No_sprint. . .czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 11:34 AM
. . .he is just parroting a spin that is making the rounds on Fox News. Heard it myself this morning when I tuned in for 2 Minutes Hate.
Of course it is!oldbutslow
Jan 7, 2004 10:28 AM
First he panders to the seasoned citizens with prescription drug entitlement, then he limits steel imports for the unions and now he's pandering to the latinos. I am beginning to think this guy just baited us with a tax cut before he leads us all to the slaughterhouse. I can not express my anger at this RINO without using words that would get my kicked off for life!
Is there anyone in politics today who doesn't pander? (nm)ColnagoFE
Jan 7, 2004 10:51 AM
Well, just imagine you've been waiting for a few yearspurplepaul
Jan 7, 2004 2:14 PM
for a green card to enter the US legally. How happy would you be hearing that millions of people who jumped the line and broke the law are now being rewarded?

Is there any incentive now for anyone to go the legal route?

Perhaps we should change the law. But as long as it is the law, and they broke it, they should not be rewarded. They should be deported. If we've got room for millions of illegals, then what's the hold up with granting entrance to those willing to do it by the rules?
The incentive is gone.czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 2:57 PM
But so what? If these millions of unscreened illegals have been deemed worthy of amnesty, why waste resources on the minority of immigrants who volunteer to jump through hoops for us? Rubber stamp their green cards and send them a sympathy card for their wasted time -- just kidding, they'll get over it sans card.

Deporting a vital portion of our economy because "it is the law" is nuts.
that's almost exactly what R. Limbaugh said recentlyDougSloan
Jan 7, 2004 3:01 PM
I'm worried about you.
Deporting a vital portion of our economy because "it is the law"purplepaul
Jan 7, 2004 3:11 PM
So let's give amnesty to drug dealers because they're a vital portion of our economy too. In fact, the country would be better off, financially, if illegal drugs were made legal.

Changing the law to reflect reality is one thing. Ignoring it is another.
Abe Lincoln said...DougSloan
Jan 7, 2004 3:14 PM
"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
Rush would probably agree. (nm)czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 3:18 PM
Then, for once, I'd be in agreement with him. nmpurplepaul
Jan 7, 2004 3:20 PM
[sighs] (nm)czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 3:29 PM
czar, you're a leaf eating vegetarian aren't you?purplepaul
Jan 7, 2004 5:55 PM
Well, so am I.

You gonna start eating meat now?
No, I am not.(nm)czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 6:15 PM
Hmm. My mistake. So let me put it this waypurplepaul
Jan 7, 2004 7:51 PM
Hitler was a vegetarian, but that doesn't keep me from being one also.
No. I am a vegetarian. And no, I am not . . .czardonic
Jan 8, 2004 10:50 AM
. . .going to start eating meat because people like you and Hitler are also vegetarians.
And yet you suggest there's something wrong with my positionpurplepaul
Jan 8, 2004 1:37 PM
simply because Rush would agree?

You are a bundle of inconsistency.
I suggested that? (nm)czardonic
Jan 8, 2004 1:48 PM
Did you not mean topurplepaul
Jan 8, 2004 2:19 PM
belittle my position by linking it with Rush?

Ah, what does it matter?
I think you are paranoid.czardonic
Jan 8, 2004 2:24 PM
I can't see any way that you might come to the conclusion that I was belittling your position.

That is, unless you pegged me as some stereotypical liberal who thinks that anything Rush says is by definition ridiculous. If that is the case, you are right: it doesn't matter what I said, you know what I must have meant.
I'll take option B. nmpurplepaul
Jan 8, 2004 2:29 PM
can't give the guy any credit, can you (Democrats)DougSloan
Jan 7, 2004 2:53 PM
Bush does anything slightly suggestive of middle of the road or liberal, and he's instantly labeled as "pandering" or having some concealed evil motive.

What if Clinton had done the exact same things?

Besides, what's wrong with trying to get votes? Duh?

Doug
If Clinton had done the same thing. . .czardonic
Jan 7, 2004 3:00 PM
. . .GOP xenophobes would be apoplectic.

I think that George W. Bush's commitment to daily excercise sets a worthy and timely example for all Americans.
you're really messing with me nowDougSloan
Jan 7, 2004 3:04 PM
Personal compliments of the President now?

This *IS* Earth, isn't it?
He was 'giving credit' to prove you wrong.OldEdScott
Jan 8, 2004 8:16 AM
Typical Stalinist mind game.
slightly suggestive of middle ...oldbutslow
Jan 8, 2004 1:06 PM
Is this flip flop day? Except for executing the war on terrorism, this guy has proved to be worse than Clinton. CFR, Prescription Benefits, Education, and I can't remember what else. This guy is 100% RINO. I am wondering why the Demo's are even bothering with a primary.

"Besides, what's wrong with trying to get votes? Duh?"

Duh, How about enforcing the laws of the land? Isn't that part of the presidential oath?

I expected better from a god fearing man. Looks like he is
just like all the rest.