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Now that I think about it, Howard Dean(17 posts)

Now that I think about it, Howard Deanmoneyman
Jan 5, 2004 9:51 AM
Does make sense. After all, the guy is well-educated, he was a success as a governor, his credentials as an expert on health care are impeccable, and he does appear to really have a handle on justice in foreign affairs. I think the shots he has taken from his Democrat opponents are unfair, and I also think the current President has avoided answering some questions that need answers.

Go Howard!

He's just a governor, with noOldEdScott
Jan 5, 2004 10:03 AM
foreign policy expereince and no experience in Congress or other national office. How in the world can you expect someone with such a thin resume to function as commander in chief?
Don't know that's a requirement for the job...moneyman
Jan 5, 2004 10:17 AM
Numerous examples from history of President's who had little or no foreign policy making experience - Lincoln, for example, pops to my mind. A short time in Congress, a traveling country lawyer, yet he handled the worst crisis in national history OK. Also, from a more recent perspective, FDR was a governor with no input in foreign policy or commander-in-chief responsibilities, unless you consider the NY National Guard as the equivalent. Then there was Ronald Reagan, who, while not the sharpest knofe in the drawer, handled things well (except for his huge budget deficits). Bill Clinton served no time in a national office, either, and he was incredibly successful. I'd also mention the current occupant of the White House, but we all know about him.

I'm not worried at all about Gov. Dean.

LOL nicely put $$man -nm-CARBON110
Jan 5, 2004 10:31 AM
$$ is one of those panty wastesOldEdScott
Jan 5, 2004 10:55 AM
who doesn't worry about things like national security. What do you expect?
I'd like to discuss this further, butmoneyman
Jan 5, 2004 11:02 AM
I have to leave for spinning class. It is 5 degrees here with snow on the ground and more coming out of the sky. The only bike I'll ride today is inside the YMCA. But I'll be back soon to put you in your place.

This is like going to the basketball courtmoneyman
Jan 5, 2004 12:59 PM
And expecting a 5 on 5 when only one other player shows up. Were we the only ones who remembered there was a game on? I think I'll take the ball and go home now. Tomorrow we're back to normal. Thanks for playing.

Doug seemed tio be there briefly, butOldEdScott
Jan 5, 2004 1:04 PM
then reverted. I wondered if I was losing my mind. But I was SURE you weren't really doing a switcheroo on Dean, so ...
I'm in. Sorry I'm late to the game. nmDougSloan
Jan 5, 2004 1:52 PM
more like going to a basketball court and getting...dr hoo
Jan 5, 2004 4:01 PM
... a football game.

The good thing is, even though the first time was very wide spread in terms of people's "play", so many people forgot already. This means a higher chance for fun going forward.

Especially if people play a subtle strategy, and not in an obvious "over the top" way.
Ummm... I think OldEd was posting with tongue firmly in cheek.nmjtolleson
Jan 5, 2004 11:02 AM
opposites day, but some of us were asleep at the wheel nmDougSloan
Jan 6, 2004 8:02 AM
Whoopsie. Zzzzzzzzz NMjtolleson
Jan 6, 2004 8:54 AM
Jan 5, 2004 11:46 AM
An amusing ploy.

Since 1950, half of the presidents had no federal office:

Eisenhower - no, but arguably had "foreign policy" experience
Kennedy - yes
Johnson - yes
Nixon - yes
Ford - yes
Carter - no
Reagan - no
Bush I - yes
Clinton - no
Bush II - no
Could there be a Dean/Clark ticketjrm
Jan 5, 2004 3:08 PM
SOunds like the most potent way to oust BUsh
Interesting matchupDougSloan
Jan 5, 2004 1:57 PM
An election pitting Dean vs. Bush Jr. would be interesting. Compare gubernatorial records? Bush can't validly play the "no experience card," as Bush himself had zero foreign policy experience before President (and arguably even now -- smacking around other countries is not exactly diplimacy or consensus building).

At least Dean is now taking a clear stand and we can have a referendum on the war as well as the economy. Remember that for every soldier killed, there probably are about 10 voters related to him or her who may not be happy about it, and the same for every adult out of work.

you're making more sense than usual, must be...rwbadley
Jan 5, 2004 5:27 PM
opposites day!