|What a hypocrite!!!||bill105|
Dec 26, 2003 11:44 AM
|Let's see, Howeird Dean makes a big gaff talking about the confederate flag and loses face (as if he had any) in the south. Study comes out that says Dean can't win without the south, Another study comes out; southerners want candidates that factor in religion into policy making. The most religious holiday on the U.S. calendar shows up next and Howeird is reminded of something, "oh yeah, I'm a Christian too!" It takes Christmas for him to proclaim his belief? No, not really, it took a wet finger in the air checking the wind and an ABC/Washington Post poll. The self proclaimed "metrosexual" is so obviously a panderer. One more example of how the Democratic party is imploding.
PS - Dr. WooHoo, does this mean he is less smart than the non-Christian democratic candidates?
|Wait a dog-gone minute!||4bykn|
Dec 26, 2003 1:12 PM
|A politician that's a panderer...Quick, alert the media!
Havent seen any politicians that
panderers in years, must be part of the job description.
|rarely this blatant (nm)||bill105|
Dec 26, 2003 1:19 PM
|Bill! A breakthrough. . . oh, no, wait.||Cory|
Dec 26, 2003 3:53 PM
|Sorry. When I saw the word "hypocrite," I figured you were going to say something about the nation's leading compassionate conservative.
I always have to giggle when I read that phrase, because it reminds me of what Molly Ivins said: "So Bush runs as a compassionate conservative, and what do we get? Hell's own conservative and (nickname for Richard) for compassion."
|Cory, while you're reading...||bill105|
Dec 29, 2003 6:51 AM
|take anothers perspective. But mark my words, if this is the best you have, you're in trouble.
Howard Dean is his own worst enemy.
If he survives the next 30 days as a viable candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, it will be a sad reflection on his own lost political party.
Here's what Dean has shown us in the last 30 days:
Dean said he's not sure Osama bin Laden is guilty of anything even though the leader of the al-Qaida terrorist network has boasted of his attacks on the U.S., including the one Sept. 11, 2001.
"I've resisted pronouncing a sentence before guilt is found," Dean said. "I still have this old-fashioned notion that even with people like Osama, who is very likely to be found guilty, we should do our best not to, in positions of executive power, not to prejudge jury trials. So I'm sure that is the correct sentiment of most Americans, but I do think if you're running for president, or if you are president, it's best to say that the full range of penalties should be available. But it's not so great to prejudge the judicial system."
Now this might be a reasonable position for the president of the American Civil Liberties Union to take. But it is certainly not a reasonable position for the president of the United States to take. But that's just the beginning ...
Dean also portrayed himself as "a committed believer in Jesus Christ": ''Christ was someone who sought out people who were disenfranchised, people who were left behind. He fought against self-righteousness of people who had everything. ... He was a person who set an extraordinary example that has lasted 2,000 years, which is pretty inspiring when you think about it.''
All true, of course. But Jesus Christ did much more than set an example. He came to earth as the Son of God and shed His blood to save mankind. Believing that is what makes one a "committed believer in Jesus Christ." Anything short of that represents only the lowest form of political pandering the kind Jesus Himself would have judged rather harshly.
This is the same Howard Dean who told us recently the presidential race should stay away from the issues of "guns, God and gays" and focus on jobs, health care and foreign policy.
U.S. News & World Report recently obtained a copy of Dean's Yale transcript. The report shows young Dean's unusual fascination some might characterize it as obsession with communism. His course list included "Marxism," Existentialism," "International Communism" and "Marxist Theory." It wouldn't be surprising to find that a curious young man might take one or two such courses. But Dean practically majored in communism!
Who is this man who wants to lead the free world? Who is he really?
I suggest to you he's more likely the guy who devoted more than 10 percent of his studies at Yale to an oppressive economic and political system that destroyed the lives of hundreds of millions rather than the believer in Jesus Christ he portrays himself as today.
He is a political pioneer in attacking the institution of marriage. He is 100 percent committed to the principle of abortion on demand. He believes, as he said in his carefully prepared speech he gave in Los Angeles earlier this month that "the strength of our nation depends on electing a president who will fight for jobs, education and real health care for all Americans."
I've got news for you, Howard Dean. That's not what the strength of America depends upon. The strength of America depends upon the spirit of God working in the lives of our people. The strength of America depends on our ability to live virtuously and govern ourselves. The strength of our nation depends on the rule of law and the will of a moral people.
Howard Dean is beginning to look more like Herod Dean.
|Good God. Hey Joe, while you're||OldEdScott|
Dec 29, 2003 7:21 AM
|red baiting based on college coursework, see if John Ashcroft can send you a list of books Howard Dean has checked out of the library. I'm sure he has it somewhere. Probably has some scary stuff on it.
This is one of the worst know-nothing posts I've ever seen on RBR. 'Majored in Communism' indeed.
|arent those courses what a communist leaning, marxist......||bill105|
Dec 29, 2003 7:30 AM
|would study? How is that not relavant? I guess you can let it slide by saying he was just dabbling in communism. Hey! Everybody does it!
I notice you dont/cant address the other points of the story. I am sure there is some logical explaination.
|Did you study abnormal psychology in college?||OldEdScott|
Dec 29, 2003 7:45 AM
|Assuming you went to college, which is a vast and shaky assumption. Were you 'dabbling in psychosis?' if so?
I say again: Possibly the most McCarthyite, know-nothing post in the distinguished history of RBR. Congratulations.
|Did you study abnormal psychology in college?||bill105|
Dec 29, 2003 7:56 AM
|Yeah, but not more than 10% of my courses. Besides, I was morally opposed to using test subjects from the DNC so I had to take an "Incomplete".
You always know you've hit the nerve when the Libbys start squealing. I accept youre congratulations.
And again, I point out that you cant/wont address the points of the article of Dean's two faced stance on religion and his lack of personal clarity on OBL's guilt or innocence.
|Frankly, I don'y give a shyt about||OldEdScott|
Dec 29, 2003 8:06 AM
|Dean's two-, three- or NINE-faced stance on religion. Given the massive hypocricy on the subject of religion in both parties and especially including Our President, it seems about par for the course. Politicians' religion BORES me, because it's all crap.
Nor do I give a shyt about your fascist un-Americanism as evidenced by your utter disregard for the First Amendment, which if it means anything means you can read or study whatever the hell you want to read or study without being called out by some right-wing moron and his Thought Police.
No more debating the likes of you. I just violated my own rules of engagement simply because I'm cranky this morning. Rave on, McDuff.
Dec 29, 2003 8:21 AM
|the first amendment doesnt mean someone's thought police cant "call you out". read, write, paint a freakin billboard of your thoughts for all i care. just dont expect that it makes you qualified to be president. its his thoughts that will scare people and ultimately destroy him.|
|you can tell dean's got 'em nervous||rufus|
Dec 29, 2003 8:08 AM
|when they start reaching like this for anything to attack him on.
"isn't it true that you took classes on communism while in college, mr. dean?"
sheesh. i took classes on civil war history, but that doesn't make me a rebel separatist. old ed might be, though.
|youre both right...||bill105|
Dec 29, 2003 8:16 AM
|i'm nervous he has the athiest, liar, hypocrite, two faced-say whatever they want to hear right now vote locked up.|
|and bush has........||rufus|
Dec 29, 2003 8:53 AM
|the religious, liar, hypocrite, two faced-say whatever they want to hear right now vote locked up.|
|Just so long as he is an athiest! (nm)||czardonic|
Dec 29, 2003 10:13 AM
|See? THAT'S what I like about the guy.||Cory|
Dec 29, 2003 9:47 AM
|He THINKS, instead of just parroting what his father's retread advisers tell him to say....
No, actually I'm not particularly a Dean fan. I sort of like Kerry and I sort of like Clark and there are elements of Kucinich that interest me.
To be honest, though, I'm mainly anti-Bush. Offhand, I can't think of a single national figure I would vote for Bush instead of, including George Wallace and Strom Thurmond if they were still alive. At least everybody knows what THEY were.
|yeah, at least he read, pondered, and tried to learn more||rufus|
Dec 29, 2003 1:59 PM
|if you don't know anything about something, how can you take a stand one way or another. as opposed to shrub, who doesn't even read a newspaper to try to understand anything because his advisors give him "impartial, unbiased" information.|
|and that led to lying, obscuring and telling half truths about..||bill105|
Dec 29, 2003 2:13 PM
|almost everything he has campaigned on. he cant seal this up in boxes and keep it from the public for 10 years. as i said earlier, he will destroy himself.|
|is he not a politician?||rufus|
Dec 29, 2003 4:31 PM
|let's compare his lies, obfuscusions, and half-truths to shrub's, and see who comes off worse.|| |