|Another Saddam "What if."||eyebob|
Dec 15, 2003 1:21 PM
|Would there be too much of a risk of putting Saddam through a trial of anyone other than his own people? What if he's convicted (in the Haig or somewhere like that) and he's ordered put to death. What kind of backlash would the West expect? Is there any real chance of a "bloodless" ending to this without the Iraqi people being the ones to give him thumbs up or thumbs down in the proverbial "courtroom?"
Going skiing. Good night.
|he'll be dead one way or another||DougSloan|
Dec 15, 2003 1:34 PM
|I can't imagine any scenario not ending in his death. Either:
A. he kills himself
B. someone assinates him, or
C. some jurisdiction executes him
Jailing him, I think, would only result in continued terrorist attempts to obtain his release. Nutcases would want to "impress" him by doing so, maybe thinking they'll be rewarded somehow.
If anyone ever deserves the death penalty, he does. I can't see much sympathy or backlash.
|We're all dead one way or another,||TJeanloz|
Dec 15, 2003 2:01 PM
|My guess is that he's old enough to die of natural causes before he meets the end of a trial. The wheels of justice turn awfully slowly...
But, w/respect to the original question, none of the world courts have the death penalty as an option - the worst the Hague can do is life in prison.
Dec 15, 2003 2:14 PM
|My guess is that this will be an internal Iraq trial, with the US pulling the strings. Now, there very well may be concurrent jurisdiction (recall that McVeigh was convicted in state and federal courts), and he could face trial, if still alive, in several forums. At least one of them will execute him.
My further guess is that this has already been worked out with the Iraqi governor's council, whatever they are calling it, in advance, and this issue was a litmus test for being selected.
|He won't be as "lucky" as Milosevic ...||HouseMoney|
Dec 16, 2003 1:22 AM
|I concur that all indications lead to Saddam being tried by the people of Iraq, with the death penalty as the end result. There'll be the clamor for a Hague trial, but I don't see that option happening.
Upon his capture, the words of Saddam almost mirror those of Slobodan Milosevic, another delusional dictator: "Former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic ... has said that he doesn't feel any guilt. According to the ex-President, if it were necessary, 'he would have done the same for the sake of the Serbian people'." Replace "Serbian" with "Iraqi", and you have Saddam.
|I thought I read somewhere that ...||Live Steam|
Dec 15, 2003 2:28 PM
|he cannot be put to death if tried by the ICTY in the Hague. Can anyone verify this?|
|Correct, no death penalty (nm)||TJeanloz|
Dec 15, 2003 2:34 PM
|No Death Penalty||Jon Billheimer|
Dec 16, 2003 9:21 AM
|From what I've read currently Iraq has no death penalty either. However, once "sovereignty" is granted to the current governing council that'll probably be rectified in about 15 minutes.|
|Does Iraq currently have any laws?||TJeanloz|
Dec 16, 2003 9:56 AM
|Don't you need a government and a judiciary before you can have laws?|
|What Iraqi laws . . .||Steve98501|
Dec 16, 2003 11:07 AM
|would Saddam be tried under? What jurisdiction? Iraq doesn't even have a constitution at this time.