|My wife said " Don't bother coming home tonight"||Dave Hickey|
Dec 10, 2003 10:23 AM
|My wife and I are having coffee this morning and I remind her that tonight is my spin class at my LBS. She says "That's OK, I'm busy tonight anyway". She then proceeds to tell me that tonight is the big wedding on the "Bachelorette".
I just don't understand this reality TV. Then again, I'm sure she doesn't understand me spinning and sweating for an hour with 8 or 10 other people.
|Don't get me started on the travesty of the "Ave. Joe" end (nm)||TJeanloz|
Dec 10, 2003 10:34 AM
|Don't leave me hangin... what's the scoop? nm||Dave Hickey|
Dec 10, 2003 10:45 AM
|Now you've got me started...||TJeanloz|
Dec 10, 2003 10:59 AM
|First, let me say that I firmly believe that the producers of these shows edit the video tape specifically to mislead viewers. I don't think this is wrong, but once you know the outcome, little things all the way back become more clear. Anyway, anatomy of my Average Joe dissappointment:
Premise: The show is based on the Bachelorette; hot, good personality girl, is to select from a pool of 12 [maybe it was 16, I can't remember] guys. Upfront, she believes this will be a very much Bachelorette Ken/Barbie scenario. The producers make things interesting by having the 12 guys be "average" - some are overweight, none are handsome. All have normal, lonely, lives, and none would ever have a shot with Barbie. The challenge is to see whether spending 5 weeks with the Joes will sufficiently convince Barbie [not her real name] that personality is more important than looks.
Next Step: The 12 guys are mostly losers, and it's pretty easily pared down to 3. There were some really great moments with these guys who have never seen a girl this hot, let alone spoken with her. Once the group is pared to 3 (about 3 weeks into the process), in one of the most foreseeable "twists", the producers add 3 "hot" guys to the mix. Now we have 6 - 3 Joes, 3 Kens.
Next: Of the 6, we narrow it to 2 - a Joe and a Ken. I would say that looks aside, the remaining Joe is anything but average. He's gregarious, outgoing, obviously madly in love with Barbie. Turns out he's doing all right for himself career-wise. All in all, a good guy. Ken is a 27 year old "college student" who lives with his parents.
Outcome: Should be apparent by now that Barbie "followed her heart" and was swept away by the good looking loser. They better hope NBC pays them a few million to show their wedding, because they're otherwise worthless.
In retrospect, I believe Joe was probably post-filming edited to look like a nicer guy than maybe he was - producers editing to manipulate viewers. Not that I think this is wrong, but if we saw everything, and she chose who she did, I weep for her.
|That's cause it was YOU, wasn't it?||moneyman|
Dec 10, 2003 1:36 PM
|It makes sense, now. Rich, geeky guy from the NE gets dumped by Barbie on national TV. That's why you're so bitter, right? Maybe you should have taken her with you on one of your sojourns to France. That would have cemented the deal, but instead you let your geekdom come through, and she wet her pants over the other guys smile instead of your net worth statement.
|No, he had a personality,||TJeanloz|
Dec 10, 2003 1:46 PM
|There are clear similarities, but I'm better looking with less personality. But if you had to choose which of the final two I was more like, clearly, it was him.
But I don't think that has as much to do with my irritation as the fact that she seemed to like him better on all levels, except the physical. What drove me nuts was how arbitrary her decision seemed to be at the end. It was like she stacked up "pros" and "cons" for each of them, had a hundred "pros" for one, five "pros" for the other, and decided that her heart wanted to go with the guy with five. Have some sense.
|Isn't the travesty to have watched in the 1st place? ;) (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Dec 10, 2003 10:45 AM
|During MNF ads...||TJeanloz|
Dec 10, 2003 11:00 AM
|It's on the channel next to MNF, which shows 5 minutes of ads for every 10 seconds of football.|
|I think there was a commercial between every NFL play||128|
Dec 10, 2003 10:42 AM
|on Monday Night Commercialball. That's something I don't understand. I gave up and turned it off.
I have learned to understand Survivor and this installment is, imo, great. The rest of them, I too do not understand. Except that one on PBS, where the families were in cabins in Montana(?). That was perfect.
One other thing I can't grasp: "Coming up, cooking with The Nuge, but first; this is Morning Crap Show on NBC."
That "but first" part. WHAT does it mean!!!!!!!
|I don't get it, either||DougSloan|
Dec 10, 2003 10:44 AM
|These shows are far from "reality." Rather, they are totally contrived, manipulated, deceptive, and scripted.
It's mildly interesting to see how stupid people can be, or at least apparently so, in these situations. However, my bet is that 99% of these participants are doing it for the exposure and the shot at a big break. I hear Whats-her-face getting married had millions of dollars of Hollywood offers pending.
|re: My wife said " Don't bother coming home tonight"||ColnagoFE|
Dec 10, 2003 10:44 AM
|I watched about 10 minutes of that show and it bored me to tears. How fake can you get. They were having a Bachelor party and--get this--he gets upset because his buddies hired strippers! Ahh the humanity! You have to wonder what his reaction would have been if the cameras were off.|
|I don't have a television.||RoyGBiv|
Dec 10, 2003 10:44 AM
|But I'm thinking about getting one, cause I hear I'm missing a lot of fine TV.|
|I don't know if it's a *lot* however...||No_sprint|
Dec 10, 2003 11:58 AM
|Survivor is just great. I watch them all. The Sopranos is great too. Evan the Meathead, the first Joe Millionaire was one of the best unknowing (to himself) comics around. Six Feet Under is good, CSI is good.
First and foremost, you're missing Cops. My personal favorite and definitely the only *reality* TV.
|How can we forget Seinfeld.||Dave Hickey|
Dec 10, 2003 12:12 PM
|On certain nights(they alternate with Friends), TBS shows Seinfeld at 5:30,6:00 and then again at 7:00. My local Fox channel shows Seinfeld at 6:30. I can veg for 2 hours watching Seinfeld|
Dec 10, 2003 12:15 PM
|I was playing too contemporary.
Cheers is ageless and always good too.
|What I really miss is the Simpsons||RoyGBiv|
Dec 10, 2003 12:37 PM
|You were almost always guaranteed a good belly laugh with The Simpsons. And I miss the McNeil-Lehrer Newshour (although I usually sat alone watching it). PBS had some other shows, like Nova, although the programs seemed to become repitive.
Haven't had a TV since '96, the year we split up - she got the TV set, I got the sterio. For entertainment these days, it's R&R - reading and radio.
|Not a troll.||BottomBracketShell|
Dec 10, 2003 5:48 PM
|Some real thoughts. Haven't seen this before. Keep it up!|
|An hour is a terrible thing to waste.||Spoiler|
Dec 10, 2003 12:11 PM
|Everytime I watched one of these shows, I realize I was stupider for having done so. It's like sniffing glue without ever getting high.|
Dec 10, 2003 2:05 PM
|There's a lot more good TV out there than most people are willing to admit. There's a ton of crap, but if you know where and when to look, you'll be happy. The best thing is to get Tivo, which automatically records stuff so you can watch when you want. There are few crappy nights of TV with Tivo.|
|I'll second that.||No_sprint|
Dec 10, 2003 2:10 PM
|Having to watch forced TV when aired is terrible. My PVR (digi recorder) has changed everything. I record everthing I want to watch and then view later, no commercials, on demand, pause or watch 1/4, 1/2, or just delete if it sucks, whatever.
It changes everything.
|NOT a troll.||BottomBracketShell|
Dec 10, 2003 5:46 PM
|He actually said something here. Not outside looking in etc.|
|stay pure||Duane Gran|
Dec 11, 2003 7:34 AM
|I have given up television for past five years and I still don't miss it. Discussions like this one remind me why. The spin class is much better.|| |