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gtx-- remember yr question the other day aboutOldEdScott
Dec 4, 2003 6:15 AM
Dean and the party establishment ('machinery,' I think you said, which I got a chuckle out of -- we're barely at the stone-tools level these days; a 'machine' is a distant dream) coming together?

Anyway, I said that process would begin soon.

Sooner than soon, apparently:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33342-2003Dec3_2.html
(I believe I just sent Page 2 of that story, so hit 'back') PlusOldEdScott
Dec 4, 2003 6:19 AM
I think there's a sentence in there about Dean's 'Internet warriors' maybe not liking this. That's partly what I was referring to when I said he might have problems down the road with the Nader types, who will see him as 'just another politician' when he gets all moderate, mainstream, and Partied-up.
interesting stuffgtx
Dec 4, 2003 9:14 AM
"There's a danger some will call it hypocritical . . . or some of his original Internet warriors won't understand he needs to consort with those they feel are the enemy," said Democratic strategist Jenny Backus.

Yeah, but everyone, including lefties, wants to be on the winning team, especially if they've already been involved in helping that team win. I think Dean's strategy of swinging left first--or appearing to swing left as it were--was a good one. Even if he swings back toward middle he's gonna keep most of the people he picked up innitially. And it's gonna be much easier to keep the left united this time against an easily identified and common enemy. I think only a very small minority of Nader voters voted Nader simply to be contrarian--I think most honestly saw Gore to be not much different than Bush--or at least didn't think the overall effect of having Bush wouldn't be much different than the overall effect of having Gore (now of course they've learned otherwise).

Glad you liked the party machinery comment. ;) There is a fairly mechanized aspect to the way the big campaings work, though, correct? So you guys are still working with a choke and carbs? Having trouble with cold starts? When are you gonna upgrade to electronic ignition and fuel injection?
Cranks, magnetoes and planetary gears, at best.OldEdScott
Dec 4, 2003 9:26 AM
Yeah, 'machine' and 'machinery' are typical ways to describe campaigns and political parties. Your usage is correct. It just doesn't apply to the Dumocrats very well these days!

What a crew.