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George just said.....rufus
Nov 25, 2003 11:16 AM
"free countries don't develop weapons of mass destruction".

I guess all our nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons are just figments of my imagination. or perhaps we aren't really free?

what a self-serving ass.
We're done developing, gone to production mode (nm)TJeanloz
Nov 25, 2003 11:18 AM
and we are the only country to use nuclear weapons in a war-nmColnagoFE
Nov 25, 2003 11:23 AM
He must not think we are a "free country". (nm)czardonic
Nov 25, 2003 11:26 AM
reference to see it in context? nmDougSloan
Nov 25, 2003 11:39 AM
That would ruin it! (nm)53T
Nov 25, 2003 11:47 AM
I just News Googled it and nothing came up nmDougSloan
Nov 25, 2003 11:52 AM
his speech today about the medicare billrufus
Nov 25, 2003 12:26 PM
as he was summing up, he had to turn it back to his anti-terror campaign. he started by saying that along with this medicare, the president was responsible for a lot of things, the economy, the security of the country, etc. he mentioned how we must thank the soldiers who are sccrificing for this country to bring freedom to the world. which led to, roughly, "free countries are peaceful countries, by spreading freedom throughout the world we are making the world more peaceful. we are bringing freedom to the countries of the middle east. free countries do not develop weapons of mass destruction." etc.

you could probaly find a transcript at or msnbc or somewhere.
yup, I guess soDougSloan
Nov 25, 2003 1:25 PM
Looks like the Whitehouse puts all his speeches on the internet. You do know he has speech writers, right?


Freedom equals peace, as far as I'm concerned. And when you hear us working for freedom in troubled parts of the world, you've just got to know it will lead to peace. We'll deal with the short-term security needs by staying on the offensive. We'll help our children grow up in a free society by bringing freedom to parts of the world that desperately need freedom. Our soldiers -- as we head into Thanksgiving, we need to give thanks to our soldiers for their sacrifice, for the honor they bring to our country, for the service they render by bringing freedom to troubled parts of the world. You see, we're bringing freedom in the heart of the Middle East.

Free countries don't develop weapons of mass destruction. Free countries don't attack their neighbors. Free countries listen to the hopes and aspirations of the people who live in those countries. America also believes that freedom is not America's gift to the world, freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person who lives in this world. (Applause.)

And this nation will stay the course to bring democracy and freedom to Afghanistan and Iraq. And by doing so, we will not only help the long-suffering people in those countries, we will make America more secure and the world more peaceful.
still amazingly self-serving and ignorantrufus
Nov 25, 2003 1:44 PM
whoever wrote it.
Just don't point the finger at Bush the Blameless. (nm)czardonic
Nov 25, 2003 1:48 PM
what a load of rhetoricColnagoFE
Nov 25, 2003 2:21 PM
Free countries don't develop weapons of mass destruction.
--Like the USA

Free countries don't attack their neighbors.
--Like the USA....just not lately--think Mexico, the Indian wars

America also believes that freedom is not America's gift to the world, freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person who lives in this world. (Applause.)
--And then he drags the Christian god into it for the coup de grace...what a patriot!
someone got carried away with the rhetoricDougSloan
Nov 25, 2003 2:34 PM
One rhetorical tactic is to repeat a word or two of a phrase 3 or 4 times (don't know if it has a name). Jesse Jackson cannot even talk without doing this. It's fairly effective at getting people's attention and stressing something, but the tactic gets abused, and seems like speech writer was just itching to use it here, but inappropriately.

It is called "laziness" or "cheapness".czardonic
Nov 25, 2003 3:21 PM
And it frequently leads to slopiness.
you calling Jesse Jackson lazy and cheap? nmDougSloan
Nov 25, 2003 3:38 PM
If he uses the same rhetorical tactics as Bush. . .czardonic
Nov 25, 2003 3:53 PM
. . .he must be.
that's been the tone of every speech latelyrufus
Nov 25, 2003 4:27 PM
since they decided to drop the WMD's pretext as justification for the war and adopt the Project for the New American Century's neo-con wet dream about how creating freedom and democracy in iraq will have a domino effect throughout the middle east.

domino effect? now where have i heard that before?
You're pejudiced53T
Nov 25, 2003 4:50 PM
What makes you believe he was refering to the "Christian God"?
When Bush the Blameless lauds "the Almighty". . .czardonic
Nov 25, 2003 5:09 PM
. . .rational, fair-minded listeners know that he is not refering to a single, specific god. One can think of any number of belief systems to which such a reference is perfectly appropriate.
what a load of rhetoricoldbutslow
Nov 26, 2003 5:32 AM
Which do you hate more, Dubya or America?
So saying his speech was crap=hating America? LOL! (nm)ColnagoFE
Nov 26, 2003 10:36 AM
yawn, spinnin' wheels, insignificant. nmNo_sprint
Nov 25, 2003 12:07 PM
Its no longer noteworthy when Bush says something dumb. nmczardonic
Nov 25, 2003 12:49 PM