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Fame, Celebrities, Michael, Paris, . . .ms
Nov 21, 2003 7:28 AM
The other night I could not sleep; was channel surfing around 3:00 a.m. and all that every "news" channel was broadcasting was about Michael Jackson. One of the talking heads said that MJ was the "third most recognized person in the world." I don't know the basis for statement, but assuming that it is true, who are number one and number two? The whole concept of fame and celebrity escapes me sometimes. I have to admit that I almost asked the same question Doug asked a few days ago about Paris Hilton (i.e., who is she?). When I asked people at the office and my family if they knew who Paris Hilton was, everyone was surprised that I did not know who she was.

I can understand how someone like MJ becomes famous -- he has sold a lot of records. But, Paris Hilton? BTW: Does Paris pronounce her first name as it would be pronounced in France (i.e., the way that Phil and Paul would pronounce Paris-Roubaix) or the way that it would be pronounced in the US (i.e., Paris, Texas)?
I thought it was a hotel in France. nmDougSloan
Nov 21, 2003 7:34 AM
Me too! nmOldEdScott
Nov 21, 2003 7:36 AM
we're not crazy... (at least this doesn't prove it)DougSloan
Nov 21, 2003 7:47 AM
http://www.hilton-paris.com/
No, we're just old . . .ms
Nov 21, 2003 8:14 AM
I'm 45, my recollection is that you are younger than me but over 40. And anyone who calls himself "Old Ed" is ... well ... old. Everyone who was surprised that I didn't know that Paris Hilton was under 40. I used to think that my parents were out of it because their knowledge of popular music ended with the likes of Frank Sinatra. Now, I guess I am just like my parents.
you're only old if you let yourself get oldColnagoFE
Nov 21, 2003 8:26 AM
Just browse alt.gossip.celebrities for a few minutes a day. you'll get your fill of pop culture and soon be spouting off all these pseudo-celebrities' names without thinking about it! Also listen to something other than "classic rock" radio stations once in a while. You might be surprised to learn than there has been some decent music made since 1980.
That's why I ride a bike . . .ms
Nov 21, 2003 8:43 AM
After nearly four years of riding, I feel a lot younger now than I did before I started. Not only has cycling had a good physical effect (good, except for when I crashed), but I have made a lot of friends through cycling who are younger than I am (and a few who are older, too). You get a different perspective when you are hanging out with people who are 10-20 years younger than you are. But, you are right -- I have not completed the anti-aging process. I not only listen to classic rock stations, I listen to real classical music, too. I'll have open up a new front in my battle with middle age. Any recommendations for "decent" post 1980s music?
Me three! nmRoyGBiv
Nov 21, 2003 8:50 AM
Who are the other two?TJeanloz
Nov 21, 2003 7:51 AM
That's a good question. The second I can answer, P.H. uses the U.S. pronounciation.

More recognized than Michael Jackson? Possibly George Bush. Possibly Queen Elizabeth (she's been around a long time). Pope John Paul II? Michael Jordan is right up there. Muhammed Ali is probably in the mix.

Google says the Pope is #1, and who am I to argue with them?
elizabeth taylor at #2 perhaps? nmrufus
Nov 21, 2003 8:11 AM
they did say "most recognized"ColnagoFE
Nov 21, 2003 8:28 AM
and MJ is pretty easy to recognize on the street. You wouldn't mistake him for someone else too easily.
I'd guess the Pope and Muhammad Ali ...HouseMoney
Nov 21, 2003 8:51 AM
... probably in that order. George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Fidel Castro, Dalai Lama, Michael Jordan, and Tiger Woods are probably near the top of that list, too. I'm sure there's a "list" somewhere out there on the web, but I'm not inclined to look.
it's the cult of personalityColnagoFE
Nov 21, 2003 8:21 AM
you don't need substance to be famous...just lots of press coverage. sad, but true.
If it's not Britney, I hope she does Playboy...No_sprint
Nov 21, 2003 8:41 AM
That'll break sales records, undoubtedly. Then, we won't even need to see an upper half picture for her to be the most recognized.

Personally, I'd rather she do the nude thing Hustler style. :)