|Anyone else having trouble finding jobs?||SenorPedro|
Nov 20, 2003 2:57 PM
|Just wondering if there is anyone else out there who is in the same boat. Finished my degree a while ago and took part in an internship in Germany for the summer. I come back and it seems impossible to find a job, much less a career.
It seems that budding mechanical engineers are no longer a desirable commodity in the professional world or at mickie-D's. Sorry for the vent-
I just get more time to ride the bike ;)
|re: Anyone else having trouble finding jobs?||lotterypick|
Nov 20, 2003 4:21 PM
|Still a lot of over qualified people without jobs I guess.
What area are you in. I work in military materials and know a lot of companies. SOmetimes it's not what you know :)
|You are not alone....||No_sprint|
Nov 21, 2003 10:05 AM
|The job market started tightening up years ago. Part of the prosperous economic atmosphere of a few years ago was the elimination of record numbers of jobs and tightening of the reigns. It was all about bottom line. I remember hearing shocking record numbers of layoffs in 1996/1997.
I work in the post grad area and 6 or 7 years ago or more, the word was that MBA grads were taking the jobs that were typically available to BS grads a few years before and BS Business grads were down to whatever avail., in their area or not. I can't imagine what Sociology BA grads are doing these days.
Best of luck.
|"What can I do with a Sociology Major?"||dr hoo|
Nov 21, 2003 12:24 PM
|I have a book by that title, and it is one of the most FAQs I get from students in my intro class. If you want a taste of it, you can look at this: http://www.asanet.org/student/career/homepage.html
Sociology grads manage to do ok, at least mine do. Once they realize that they need to sell their skills (stats, research methods like surveys, knowledge of specific topical areas as they relate to the job applied for, etc...) they are at a level of just about any other liberal arts BAs out there, and in better position than many (like english or history). Sure some go on to grad school, but others work for local governments, the DNR, marketing firms, human resource departments, a slew of research positions, and I have even known film studios to hire them to do research for film projects. Many Soc programs have a criminology emphasis, and so produce a lot of police, fbi, and other law enforcement types, along with other jobs in the correctional field. Corrections has been booming for years in terms of jobs, and prisons never downsize!
Narrow majors (like MIS -management informations systems) tend to be good at getting you into specific but limited fields. Sociology is not as good at getting you into any specific field, but it does a pretty good job of getting you into a wide range of jobs.
Nov 21, 2003 1:04 PM
|You've got a great optimistic perspective! LOL :)|
|When the evidence supports it I do.||dr hoo|
Nov 22, 2003 5:22 AM
|We have a 98% placement rate for our class of 2001.|
|Coming up on four years without work||The Walrus|
Nov 21, 2003 10:47 AM
|I left my position as a Senior Programmer/Analyst in 2000 due to a number of factors--I hadn't had more than three days in a row off since a week I took in '94 (and that was bereavement leave after my father died), I'd been shuffled from one high-priority, high-pressure project to another, I was thoroughly disgusted with the change in management at the company, and I had estate-related matters I'd never had the time to attend to. I figured I'd deal with the estate stuff, go back to school and finish getting my degree, do a bit of traveling and then get another job. Big mistake.
After a while, the insurance money for the repairs on the house was gone, my diabetes was officially diagnosed and my health insurance ran out,I was blowing through my savings and dipping into my 401(k) and, just as I was negotiating with my former employer to return (a desperation move), Black Thursday happened and they wiped out 30% of the I/S staff. Now I was not only competing with the usual pool of P/As looking for work in a slow market, I had a local flood of former co-workers to contend with, too.
I've made the rounds several times, with no encouragement from prospective employers. The general impression I get is that my age (52) and experience (20 yrs) are working against me, because companies would rather hire someone young and dumb who will work cheaply, rather than someone who can jump in and be productive immediately, albeit at a higher cost. (Mind you, no one's been foolish enough to actually say that I'm being rejected because of my age, but the vibe is definitely out there.)
So, for the time being, I'm selling my bikes, picking up occasional work at the LBS assembling bikes for them, doing other temporary jobs I've sniffed out and getting ready to hit the 401(k) again. Monday I go to the Post Office to apply for a temporary job.
Maybe I should see if I could get a programming job in India....
|Brutal, best of luck to you... nm||No_sprint|
Nov 21, 2003 11:43 AM
|Coming up on four years without work||jaybird|
Nov 23, 2003 5:38 AM
|where do you live?|
|SoCal (Ventura Co.)||The Walrus|
Nov 23, 2003 4:30 PM
|...the job situation for I/S seems to be especially ugly here; I was talking last week to a friend of mine who still works at my former company, and in comparing notes about the people who got the axe on Black Thursday, about 2/3 are either still without work, or they've taken other jobs (Pilates instructor, cashier, waiter, mechanic, minister, day care worker, etc.) just to keep it together.|
|SoCal (Ventura Co.)||No_sprint|
Nov 25, 2003 8:00 AM
|I seem to recall there was a little push (conspiracy) :) to make the Carpenteria area a sort of mini San Jose. I don't think it worked out. I don't know how Austin is panning out in that area either.|
|Thanks guys... nm||SenorPedro|
Nov 21, 2003 3:08 PM
Nov 24, 2003 7:53 AM
|with a B.S. in geology and had my first interview last week in the 3 months off since ive graduated. I have had horrible luck in even finding a job in my field. of course, Ohio isnt the geologic hotspot (no pun intended) fopr jobs, but the more people i talk with and hearing about actions on this post, there is a whole lot of nothing out there. thanks W.|| |